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View Poll Results: San Francisco Or Sao Paulo ? Which Is More Racially Diverse ?
Sao Paulo 24 57.14%
San Francisco 18 42.86%
Voters: 42. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-23-2011, 05:23 PM
 
Location: US Empire, Pac NW
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Depends on your perspective.

If you want a culture where hippie (and some yuppie) white people will call anyone with kids "breeders", where Chinese generally hate white people, but not vice versa because that would be non-PR, where blacks are generally relegated to the eastern suburbs, and you see a blatant lack of mixed couples, then SF is for you!

Sao Paulo, by a million miles. They've had interracial mixing for hundreds of years. Africans, carribean blacks, whites, east (and north, and south, and western, and central) asians, and even some middle eastern people have been in Brazil and Sao Paulo for hundreds of years. You cannot possibly believe that SF is anywhere remotely close to the diversity anywhere in Brazil.

Hell, even a "backwater" town like Edmonton, AB, Canada, is more diverse than SF. I've been there. Mixed couples where EVERYWHERE. And more white female / (insert here) male than elsewhere in the USA. And it's accepted. Not derided (like "oh that white **** is dating that black gigolo, hope she doesn't mind him cheating on her" bull****).
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Old 05-28-2011, 12:56 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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Depends on your perspective.

If you want a culture where hippie (and some yuppie) white people will call anyone with kids "breeders", where Chinese generally hate white people, but not vice versa because that would be non-PR, where blacks are generally relegated to the eastern suburbs, and you see a blatant lack of mixed couples, then SF is for you!

Sao Paulo, by a million miles. They've had interracial mixing for hundreds of years. Africans, carribean blacks, whites, east (and north, and south, and western, and central) asians, and even some middle eastern people have been in Brazil and Sao Paulo for hundreds of years. You cannot possibly believe that SF is anywhere remotely close to the diversity anywhere in Brazil.

Hell, even a "backwater" town like Edmonton, AB, Canada, is more diverse than SF. I've been there. Mixed couples where EVERYWHERE. And more white female / (insert here) male than elsewhere in the USA. And it's accepted. Not derided (like "oh that white **** is dating that black gigolo, hope she doesn't mind him cheating on her" bull****).
Some people just can't contain their envy.

What else is new. SF is used to it.
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Old 05-28-2011, 10:52 AM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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Sao Paulo, by a million miles. They've had interracial mixing for hundreds of years. Africans, carribean blacks, whites, east (and north, and south, and western, and central) asians, and even some middle eastern people have been in Brazil and Sao Paulo for hundreds of years. You cannot possibly believe that SF is anywhere remotely close to the diversity anywhere in Brazil.
Interracial marriage removes diversity. It destroys diversity. It makes everyone the same.

<not saying that is a bad thing, but I miss the logic where intermarriage is a sign of diversity of a harbinger of diversity in the future.>

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Depends on your perspective.
I know, right?
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Old 05-29-2011, 02:54 AM
 
Location: Macao
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Interracial marriage removes diversity. It destroys diversity. It makes everyone the same.

<not saying that is a bad thing, but I miss the logic where intermarriage is a sign of diversity of a harbinger of diversity in the future.>



I know, right?
Or it makes it even more diverse. They got a ton of names for all the different mixes, and even all the different kind of skin tones.
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Old 05-29-2011, 03:34 AM
 
Location: FL
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WalMart People got nothing on San Fransisco People! - incognito205's posterous
Hmmm...

I voted San Paulo!
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Old 05-29-2011, 10:26 PM
 
Location: US Empire, Pac NW
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Interracial marriage removes diversity. It destroys diversity. It makes everyone the same.
Proof positive you've never been to Brazil.
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Old 05-30-2011, 09:55 AM
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Location: Oakland
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Most of the African-americans over in Oakland, and not so many in SF.
Most blacks in the Bay Area live in neither Oakland or SF, but rather in various suburbs in Alameda, Contra Costa and Solano counties...but the two cities in the Bay Area with the largest black populations by raw numbers are: Oakland, followed by SF. Percentagewise, SF is much lower obviously, but despite that low percentage, SF actually has the second largest black community, and the largest black neighborhood in the Bay outside of Oakland. By Bay Area/california/west coast standards SF actually has a pretty decent sized black population.
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Old 05-30-2011, 11:23 AM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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Proof positive you've never been to Brazil.
No, I have not. But, then, everyone who I have spoken to about Brazil has described it as having a pretty solid national culture. I do understand that there are populations of Brazilians with distinct cultures such as the indigenous peoples, areas of heavy African influence and various immigrant communities, but by and large, the blending of peoples has created a fairly unified 'Brazilian' culture (albeit comprised of a blending of diverse elements). In such a large country, a culture that encompasses the vast majority of the population is a monolithic force.

So, help me understand:

Is Brazilian culture a single culture with diverse elements in its make up?

-or-

Is the cultural make up of Brazil diverse in its cultures? (culturally diverse with no majority culture)
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Old 06-01-2011, 12:24 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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LOL...Por Favor.

Essas imagens NAO sao de San Francisco.
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Old 06-01-2011, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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Or it makes it even more diverse. They got a ton of names for all the different mixes, and even all the different kind of skin tones.
And almost 100% speak only Portuguese, they like the same music, eat the same food, have the exact same culture. SF is the opposite--everyone is different.

So Sao Paulo is a melting pot, but San Francisco is a salad bowl.
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