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Old 07-01-2011, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Brazil
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1. the richest country in south america is CHILE, not brazil... brazil is important and rich south america wise because of size, not because of actual wealth...... Chile and Uruguay have way better standard of living and much less poverty than Brazil.


7. the USA diverse yes.... Brazil I wouldn't call it so....
in the US u can go down the street and see people from every imaginable nationality on this planet, ride a subway and listen to 50 different languages, have friends who come from every single country on this planet...
Brazil on the other hand is 99% Brazilian people..... their diversity comes from the fact that they have mixtures that makes them physically different from one another but they are still pretty much brazilian by culture and origin.... but to be honest every south american country I've visited is like that, not just brazil!!!! 99% of the people you find on the street in Brazil is mostly black BRAZILIAN, mixed with black BRAZILIAN, BRAZILIAN indigenous, mixed with amerindian BRAZILIAN and a minority of white BRAZILIANS mostly in the south, and small groups of arab origin BRAZILIANS and japanese BRAZILIANS concentrated pretty much in Sao Paulo....
There are very few foreigners in Brazil by the way.... Barely 0.3% of brazil total population was born outside of brazil! in the USA almost 15% of the total population is an immigrant and about 30% is a first generation American whose parents were born in other countries...... in Brazil being a foreigner is a novelty.... in the USA being a foreigner is being an everyday person!!!! so I disagree with the similarity in diversity, the US is BY FAR much more diverse than Brazil.
the US has almost 50 million foreigners.... Brazil has around 450 thousand.


9. Brazil cultural differences are regional, in the US cultural differences are racial.

1. I have nothing against Chile and Chileans, they are nice people, so don't take it personally: Chile is NOT the richest country in South America, by any criteria. Let's be aware of that, in the name of truth.

The nominal GDP of Brazil was 2,090,314 dollars in 2010. Chile's GDP was 203,323 dollars, about 10% of Brazil's GDP.


If you take GDP per capita, you can use two criteria: nominal and PPP.

In the nominal ranking, the highest GDP per capita of South America is Uruguay, with 11,998 - higher than Chile's 11,828.

In the PPP ranking, the highest GDP per capita of South America is Argentina, with 15,854 - higher than Chile's 15,002.

So, Chile is not the richest country in South America.


And when people say that "the USA is the richest country in the world", they are talking about total GDP, not GDP per capita. There are countries with higher GDP per capita than the USA (Luxembourg, Norway and Qatar, for example). So, if you say Brazil is not the richest country in South America, even when it has the biggest total GDP, you will have to say that the USA is not the richest country in the world.


7. Everything depends on your definition of "diversity". Brazil has a lot of diversity, because it is a boiling pot of mixing cultures. Mainly the Portuguese culture, the Amerindian culture, and the African culture. Those are three different cultures, that mixed in different degrees in each part of Brazil. But not only those three.

Brazil also received a lot of Arab immigrants in the first years of the 20th century, primarily Christian Arabs from Syria and Lebanon. For being Christians, they could easily assimilate into Brazilian society. Today, 12 million Brazilians have at least one grandfather of Syrian-Lebanese origin, that's almost 7 percent of Brazil's population. A famous example is Brazilian race car driver Tony Kanaan, who won the 2004 IndyCar Series championship in the United States. Because of their influence in the Brazilian culture, many kinds of Arab food are very popular in Brazil, such as kibbeh and sfihas.

Brazil also received a large number of Japanese immigrants, and today there are 1.5 million Japanese-Brazilians in the country, the largest Japanese diaspora in the world.

And there also the millions of Italian, German, Polish and Ukrainian immigrants that came to Brazil as rural peasants in the 19th century and beginning of the 20th. Some towns in Southern Brazil have a characteristic German architecture.


9. I agree with that. There are no "racial cultures" in Brazil, but regional cultures. A black person from Sao Paulo has a culture that is much more similar to that of a white person from Sao Paulo than similar to that of a black person from the state of Pernambuco. There is the culture of Sao Paulo and the culture of Pernambuco, regardless of race.
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Old 08-22-2013, 08:50 AM
 
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1. I have nothing against Chile and Chileans, they are nice people, so don't take it personally: Chile is NOT the richest country in South America, by any criteria. Let's be aware of that, in the name of truth.

The nominal GDP of Brazil was 2,090,314 dollars in 2010. Chile's GDP was 203,323 dollars, about 10% of Brazil's GDP.


If you take GDP per capita, you can use two criteria: nominal and PPP.

In the nominal ranking, the highest GDP per capita of South America is Uruguay, with 11,998 - higher than Chile's 11,828.

In the PPP ranking, the highest GDP per capita of South America is Argentina, with 15,854 - higher than Chile's 15,002.

So, Chile is not the richest country in South America.


And when people say that "the USA is the richest country in the world", they are talking about total GDP, not GDP per capita. There are countries with higher GDP per capita than the USA (Luxembourg, Norway and Qatar, for example). So, if you say Brazil is not the richest country in South America, even when it has the biggest total GDP, you will have to say that the USA is not the richest country in the world.


7. Everything depends on your definition of "diversity". Brazil has a lot of diversity, because it is a boiling pot of mixing cultures. Mainly the Portuguese culture, the Amerindian culture, and the African culture. Those are three different cultures, that mixed in different degrees in each part of Brazil. But not only those three.

Brazil also received a lot of Arab immigrants in the first years of the 20th century, primarily Christian Arabs from Syria and Lebanon. For being Christians, they could easily assimilate into Brazilian society. Today, 12 million Brazilians have at least one grandfather of Syrian-Lebanese origin, that's almost 7 percent of Brazil's population. A famous example is Brazilian race car driver Tony Kanaan, who won the 2004 IndyCar Series championship in the United States. Because of their influence in the Brazilian culture, many kinds of Arab food are very popular in Brazil, such as kibbeh and sfihas.

Brazil also received a large number of Japanese immigrants, and today there are 1.5 million Japanese-Brazilians in the country, the largest Japanese diaspora in the world.

And there also the millions of Italian, German, Polish and Ukrainian immigrants that came to Brazil as rural peasants in the 19th century and beginning of the 20th. Some towns in Southern Brazil have a characteristic German architecture.


9. I agree with that. There are no "racial cultures" in Brazil, but regional cultures. A black person from Sao Paulo has a culture that is much more similar to that of a white person from Sao Paulo than similar to that of a black person from the state of Pernambuco. There is the culture of Sao Paulo and the culture of Pernambuco, regardless of race.
But there is in fact "black culture" in Brazil.
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Old 08-23-2013, 06:29 AM
 
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1. I have nothing against Chile and Chileans, they are nice people, so don't take it personally: Chile is NOT the richest country in South America, by any criteria. Let's be aware of that, in the name of truth.

The nominal GDP of Brazil was 2,090,314 dollars in 2010. Chile's GDP was 203,323 dollars, about 10% of Brazil's GDP.
You don't measure how rich a country is in GDP. Or else India would be richer than Norway.

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If you take GDP per capita, you can use two criteria: nominal and PPP.

In the nominal ranking, the highest GDP per capita of South America is Uruguay, with 11,998 - higher than Chile's 11,828.
That data is now outdated
Chile 15,410
Uruguay 14,614
Brazil 12,079
Argentina 11,576
List of countries by GDP (nominal) per capita - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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In the PPP ranking, the highest GDP per capita of South America is Argentina, with 15,854 - higher than Chile's 15,002.
That data is also outdated.
Chile 18,419
Argentina 18,112
Uruguay 15,911
Brazil 11,875

So right now Chile is the richest country in South America. Also, I think Argentina subsidizes their goods, which makes their PPP figure a little off.
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