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View Poll Results: Best city for families
Houston, Texas 9 45.00%
Los Angeles, California 2 10.00%
Rio de Janiero, Brazil 9 45.00%
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Old 07-25-2011, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Denver
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The beaches in Rio are nice, as long as you dont go into the water. The best beaches in Brasil are not in its cities.
Why wouldn't you go into the water in Rio? Though you're right about there being better beaches than Copacabana and Ipanema...perhaps I should have the most famous beaches, not necessarily the best.
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Old 07-25-2011, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Macao
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Moved to the appropriate forum - it's not a cityvscity topic per the room guidelines.
The OP has already started this thread in this forum. Maybe merge this with the other one?
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Old 07-25-2011, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Houston: Much, much, much more affordable, family friendly and overall safer than L.A. However, very sprawled and some hellish weather. Also not very exciting.

Los Angeles: Fantastic weather year round, cosmpolitan, much more dynamic. However, very expensive, sprawled (better than Houston though) and mentioned before, higher crime, but as long as you stay out of the bad neighborhoods you should be fine.
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Houston's level of crime is higher than that of Los Angeles, although the level of crime in both cities is lower than in the 1980s and 1990s.

The only California city with higher crime than Houston is Oakland.
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Old 07-25-2011, 06:55 PM
 
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Why wouldn't you go into the water in Rio? Though you're right about there being better beaches than Copacabana and Ipanema...perhaps I should have the most famous beaches, not necessarily the best.
The water from beaches in Brazilian cities tend to be a little bit on the dirty side. Rio is better than Salvador, which has ridiculous amounts of trash in the water, but it has more than I am used to. I find this to be less of a problem in the countryside. The beach always is great to relax at, might again I prefer less crowded beaches. If I was single I might have a different opinion.
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Yes, the water tends to be dirty, but I've been in it and never suffered any horrible side effects. I think ocean water has a chance of being dirty anywhere.

I happen to love Rio. I never lived there but I visited in 2000. It is, to date, my best vacation experience. The people were wonderful--very friendly and helpful, I felt very welcome there.

The only issue might be the language and/or culture barrier. I spoke Spanish but not Portuguese when I was there and definitely feel that I missed out on the cultural nuances (although we got along fine with English and Spanish). Most of the people that you would interact with will probably speak English (based on your salary, etc.) That said, life is very good in Rio, especially those that have $$. I also agree that the crime really won't affect you much if you don't run in those circles and avoid certain areas, just as in LA or Houston, for that matter.

There is also tons of culture in Rio, much more I think than LA or Houston (Houston would definitely be a second). Moreover, you can take really interesting weekend trips to places like Buzios or Angra Dos Reys, which are smaller, charming tons outside of the city.

The only way you will know which decision to make is if you visit both places. I think that you would be happy in either: both will give your kids a new cultural perspective, Rio moreso for being an international destination but Texas as well.
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:45 PM
 
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Yes, the water tends to be dirty, but I've been in it and never suffered any horrible side effects. I think ocean water has a chance of being dirty anywhere.

I happen to love Rio. I never lived there but I visited in 2000. It is, to date, my best vacation experience. The people were wonderful--very friendly and helpful, I felt very welcome there.

The only issue might be the language and/or culture barrier. I spoke Spanish but not Portuguese when I was there and definitely feel that I missed out on the cultural nuances (although we got along fine with English and Spanish). Most of the people that you would interact with will probably speak English (based on your salary, etc.) That said, life is very good in Rio, especially those that have $$. I also agree that the crime really won't affect you much if you don't run in those circles and avoid certain areas, just as in LA or Houston, for that matter.

There is also tons of culture in Rio, much more I think than LA or Houston (Houston would definitely be a second). Moreover, you can take really interesting weekend trips to places like Buzios or Angra Dos Reys, which are smaller, charming tons outside of the city.

The only way you will know which decision to make is if you visit both places. I think that you would be happy in either: both will give your kids a new cultural perspective, Rio moreso for being an international destination but Texas as well.
Rio is great to visit but it is among my least favorite Brazilian cities. Too touristy. Also while people are friendly, Brazilians are VERY friendly in general, they are less friendly than other areas of Brasil.
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Old 07-25-2011, 08:15 PM
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Gosh, technology is awesome!!!!!!

Preview Rio on your own time before even stepping there: rio de janeiro - Google Maps
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Old 07-25-2011, 08:22 PM
 
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Does anyone live in Alphaville? If so what are your impressions? From what I am getting Rio is the LA of Brazil on steroids, lol. I doubt I can get a higher allowance for housing since they company is eating the school cost for the kids. My 15 yr old daughter is stuck on Harvard so her commute to school will be quite long to say the least. After reading some of the posts my wife is coming around about the move to Brazil. I know the company has some contacts with the developer of Alphaville, but isn't that considered the suburbs of Rio, if you can call them that. LOL I can't wait for the ten minute hang gliding lesson, I was told its worth every penny. Any expats or locals that want to connect families can email me at thewiltshiregroup@gmail.com. I relocated to LA from the south 22yrs ago to attend UCLA, it looks like I've come full circle heading down south again. Its funny all my short term assignments have been in Dubai and Abu Dhabi, lol my biggest career move is in Rio a city I've yet to visit. I'll be flying down to Rio in a couple of weeks for work and an introduction. Any suggestions for my three week visit, that my wife won't send a PI to get evidence LOL.
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Old 07-25-2011, 08:29 PM
 
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Does anyone live in Alphaville? If so what are your impressions? From what I am getting Rio is the LA of Brazil on steroids, lol. I doubt I can get a higher allowance for housing since they company is eating the school cost for the kids. My 15 yr old daughter is stuck on Harvard so her commute to school will be quite long to say the least. After reading some of the posts my wife is coming around about the move to Brazil. I know the company has some contacts with the developer of Alphaville, but isn't that considered the suburbs of Rio, if you can call them that. LOL I can't wait for the ten minute hang gliding lesson, I was told its worth every penny. Any expats or locals that want to connect families can email me at thewiltshiregroup@gmail.com. I relocated to LA from the south 22yrs ago to attend UCLA, it looks like I've come full circle heading down south again. Its funny all my short term assignments have been in Dubai and Abu Dhabi, lol my biggest career move is in Rio a city I've yet to visit. I'll be flying down to Rio in a couple of weeks for work and an introduction. Any suggestions for my three week visit, that my wife won't send a PI to get evidence LOL.
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Old 07-25-2011, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Does anyone live in Alphaville? If so what are your impressions? From what I am getting Rio is the LA of Brazil on steroids, lol. I doubt I can get a higher allowance for housing since they company is eating the school cost for the kids. My 15 yr old daughter is stuck on Harvard so her commute to school will be quite long to say the least. After reading some of the posts my wife is coming around about the move to Brazil. I know the company has some contacts with the developer of Alphaville, but isn't that considered the suburbs of Rio, if you can call them that. LOL I can't wait for the ten minute hang gliding lesson, I was told its worth every penny. Any expats or locals that want to connect families can email me at thewiltshiregroup@gmail.com. I relocated to LA from the south 22yrs ago to attend UCLA, it looks like I've come full circle heading down south again. Its funny all my short term assignments have been in Dubai and Abu Dhabi, lol my biggest career move is in Rio a city I've yet to visit. I'll be flying down to Rio in a couple of weeks for work and an introduction. Any suggestions for my three week visit, that my wife won't send a PI to get evidence LOL.
Oh man. You're in trouble.
Brazilian women aren't exactly modest and passive.
Watch your daughter like a hawk.
I'm sure your wife'll be watching you like one too...
We're talking Afro-America+Southern Europe....all in one package.
It's a pretty steamy culture. Especially Rio.

Alphaville is a chain of planned communities built throughout Brazil. I honestly don't know anything about the ones in Rio. I'm only familiar with Sao Paulo's Alphaville developments, and the one in Recife. These communities are secluded, guarded, safe, upscale. You'll definitely make friends FAST. Especially in a gated community. Brazilians are extremely friendly, sociable, open and full of life. The friends you make there will be your friends for life.
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