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Old 11-10-2011, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Scotland
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THe level of haterism (to use such an American term) by first worlders in this thread is disgusting yet at the same time amusing.
Don't worry Europeans.....your ppl will maybe be able to get menial jobs in Brazil that Brazilians don't want someday when your first world economies have fully crumbled! Sounds out there? I'm sure even 5 years ago none of us would have expected Europe to be going around cap in hand for bailouts from China and Brazil! :O
Your comment is very amusing to say the least!

And it is people not ppl.
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Old 11-10-2011, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Your comment is very amusing to say the least!

And it is people not ppl.
Your lack of argument is far more amusing.
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Old 11-10-2011, 06:58 AM
 
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Your comment is very amusing to say the least!

And it is people not ppl.
Sorry, at work...and trying to type discreetly and quickly. Shorthand ftw!
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Old 11-10-2011, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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And it is people not ppl.
We're discussing the intricacies of global economics with people who are texting while driving.

Ten years ago, it was "peeps".
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Old 11-10-2011, 07:14 AM
 
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I think that Europe (probably North America too) is definitely stagnating/stagnated, culturally and economically. It was bound to happen: nothing lasts forever. Empires, systems and cultures rise and fall all the time.

However, Brazil has yet to achieve the average standard of living of Western Europeans, if this is what that country wants. Macroeconomic figures really don't mean much when you're an ordinary citizen with more low-key and immediate concerns.

Hopefully though, instead of just aiming at what Europe and/or North America have been doing, new ideas and (better?) ways of doing things will be produced in Brazil or somewhere else.
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Old 11-10-2011, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Scotland
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Your lack of argument is far more amusing.
I have made my argument, you are getting big headed because Brazils economy is doing well at the moment, we will see how it holds up in future then we will know if Brazil have a stong economy that is better than Germany, UK, France etc. Yeah Europe is facing tough times at the moment, we have got through two world wars and previous recessions before.
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Old 11-10-2011, 07:58 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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I have made my argument, you are getting big headed because Brazils economy is doing well at the moment, we will see how it holds up in future then we will know if Brazil have a stong economy that is better than Germany, UK, France etc. Yeah Europe is facing tough times at the moment, we have got through two world wars and previous recessions before.
Right, and a lot of countries around the world including BRICS have gone through some really tough times, too. The fact is that they're doing pretty well and seem to be getting better faster, and that's great.
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Old 11-10-2011, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Scotland
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Of course it is great, fair play to them but some of the comments saying ''Brazil will be the strongest economy'' and ''Brazil will overtake America etc'' is a bit premature!
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Old 11-10-2011, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Barcelona, Spain
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Of course it is great, fair play to them but some of the comments saying ''Brazil will be the strongest economy'' and ''Brazil will overtake America etc'' is a bit premature!
Eventually it will happen. 2050? 2500? who knows? who cares?

We should just be happy that millions of people who were dirt poor before now have a more decent life.
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Old 11-10-2011, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Belgium
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And what country, do you suggest, should be their model?
I think the best model for Brazil would be the Rhine Capitalism model as was used in Western Europe during the Cold War years. That means a mixed, largely social-democratic model.

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I think that Europe (probably North America too) is definitely stagnating/stagnated, culturally and economically. It was bound to happen: nothing lasts forever. Empires, systems and cultures rise and fall all the time.
Yes, it could be that Europe ends up in a Japanese-style economy (which wouldn't be that terrible, knowing that Japan is still the third economy, measured by nominal GDP). On the other hand, the current problems in the EU might just as well be a chance to clean up our act and make a serious leap forward. Don't write us off just yet .
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