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Old 11-17-2011, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Brazil
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Yes. Brazil's fertility rate is now just 1.9 children per woman. This is attributed to several factors: 1) Brazil's rapid industrialization, lessening the need for child agrarian labor. 2) easy legal access to birth-control pills and devices, without prescription. 3) declining infant and child mortality rates due to public health initiatives. 4) government financial incentives for performing C-sections, with tubal ligations tacked on. 4) immensely popular telenovelas (soap operas) featuring glamorous middle-class, independent female characters as role models. Read National Geographic magazine's Sept. 2011 article on this subject nationgeographic.com - nation geographic Resources and Information. The New York Times has also written about Brazil's phenomenon.
Yes, the fertility rate has dropped drastically in the past 10 years in Brazil.

The huge majority of the couples that have kids younger than 10 years old don't have a second kid. The huge majority has just one kid. And we don't have an official "one child policy" like China! People are doing this for pure personal choice.

Today, it's very very difficult to find a couple in Brazil that has 3 young kids, or more than 3.

And this is valid for all social classes.

Another phenomenon is the fact that people are staying single until much later age, including the women. It's very usual thing now to find a woman in Brazil who is 28 or 29 years old, and is not married. 20 years ago, it wasn't so usual...
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Well large amount of Australians that have lived in the UK have moved back to Australia due to the declining prospects over there. I met some people that have used to live in the UK due to that reason.

I have met british people here complain on the lack of work over in the UK but here in Australia they see more jobs advertised.

Besides the unemployment rate is 8.1% in UK, 5.3 percent in Australia. In Spain its in double figures and thats the same with some east European nations. The Euro area its 10%
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And many Brits have emigrated back to the UK because Australian house prices have soared to levels above that of London. Besides, if you have no job in the UK you cannot emigrate abroad, the only way you're getting into Australia is if you have a job they want you to do. such as being a nurse.

Also the number of Australians living in the UK has increased over the past 10 years despite the sour economy.
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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Brazil: migration flows reversed | beyondbrics | News and views on emerging markets from the Financial Times

Brazil's Immigration Surges 52 Percent: Daily Update | The Rio Times | Brazil News

According to these two articles....there are now 2 million foreigners living in Brazil, and there are approximately 2 million Brazilians living/working abroad...

Apparently there were 4 million abroad, but about half returned with sour economies abroad.

Interesting, for sure! Not sure how accurate those stats are in the articles, but interesting nontheless.
I know that in New Jersey, which with New York and Massachusetts has the largest Brazilian population in the US, for the past two years or so many Brazilians have left and gone back to Brazil.





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After Brazil's economy soured several years, ago, I understand that Japan encouraged several thousand Brazilians of Japanese ancestry to emigrate there. However these free-wheeling emigrants had difficulty conforming to Japan's language, diet, and societal customs, and many returned to Brazil. This is unfortunate, since Japan has such a top-heavy aged population, and needs all the young working-age people it can get.
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I read that they specifically issued visas for Brazilians of Japanese decent. Because that was the only source of overseas immigrants of Japanese decent and they wanted to keep Japan "pure", so they did this. Japan is heavily racist.
That's true, but it was Brazilians and Peruvians of Japanese descent as well. The Japanese got mad at them (the Brazilians and Peruvians) because they wouldn't assimilate or even learn Japanese and insisted on setting up private schools to educate their children.

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They don't want anybody else in there. If they really wanted to, they could attract enough immigrants
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Many Argentines around the same time, emigrated to Spain and Italy, with greater success, since they found a more similar culture and language there.
Yes, I guess those would be the primary "motherlands" for Argentines. A running joke there says that Argentines are Germans who speak Spanish with Italian accents and think they're English.
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:19 PM
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Wow, only 4 million Brazilians used to live abroad now down to 2 million. For a country with over 100 million people, that's a drop in a bucket. A very small drop.

For some reason I thought it would be higher.
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:50 PM
 
Location: American Expat
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Strict immigration policies in Brazil, or what? What's the reason?
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Old 11-17-2011, 05:07 PM
 
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Wow, only 4 million Brazilians used to live abroad now down to 2 million. For a country with over 100 million people, that's a drop in a bucket. A very small drop.

For some reason I thought it would be higher.
Actually it is a country of almost 200 million. There really are not very many Brazilians living abroad. I would be willing to bet the majority of people in the US have never met a Brazilian. I am from Seattle and I remember in high school one came to our school who was an exchange student at another school. Even when I lived in Chicago, relatively recently, I only met a few Brazilians, and that is the second or third biggest city in the US. Brazilians have started to travel more but really not that many live abroad.
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Old 11-17-2011, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Macao
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Actually it is a country of almost 200 million. There really are not very many Brazilians living abroad. I would be willing to bet the majority of people in the US have never met a Brazilian. I am from Seattle and I remember in high school one came to our school who was an exchange student at another school. Even when I lived in Chicago, relatively recently, I only met a few Brazilians, and that is the second or third biggest city in the US. Brazilians have started to travel more but really not that many live abroad.
Same here. I've met very few Brazilians in the U.S.

I lived in Brazil for a little while, so I actively sought them out, and I lived in NYC and SF after living in Brazil. They were around like 'Lone Rangers', seldom ever in a concentrated community like other immigrant groups - at least none that I saw in NYC or SF.

I've heard there is really only three places you'd find a communities, parts of Florida, parts of Massachusetts, and Newark, NJ.

So, unless someone lived in one of those three areas, it's unlikely they would have easily met a Brazilian in the U.S.
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Old 11-12-2013, 12:25 AM
 
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Very interesting. There is some skepticism and caveats to this etc, but it's still interesting nonetheless.
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:52 AM
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There are many Brazilians in Mount Vernon, NY. When I was a university student, during one of the summer breaks I worked for a door-to-door sales company and I spent a couple weeks pitching the products in Mount Vernon.

I don't know if it was a coincidence, but all the Brazilians that I met (and they are quite numerous in that town) were from Minas Gerais.
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Old 11-12-2013, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Brazil
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There are many Brazilians in Mount Vernon, NY. When I was a university student, during one of the summer breaks I worked for a door-to-door sales company and I spent a couple weeks pitching the products in Mount Vernon.

I don't know if it was a coincidence, but all the Brazilians that I met (and they are quite numerous in that town) were from Minas Gerais.

It's not a coincidence.

The region of Brazil that "exports" the most people to the USA is the northeast of the state of Minas Gerais, the region centered around the city of Governador Valadares.

I don't know why, but people in that region really like to migrate to the USA.
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