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View Poll Results: How do you view Dominicans?
Strictly Latin American. 40 33.61%
Afro-Latino 65 54.62%
Strictly Afro-Caribbean. 14 11.76%
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Old 03-24-2014, 05:47 AM
 
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I found this about wine production in Dominican Republic:




Wine Tourism in the Dominican Republic?
Lol I bring up Chile (one of the top 10 wine producing countries in the world) and this guy brings up some tourist trap that just broke ground.

 
Old 03-24-2014, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Canada
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You're missing the point. The fact that a significant portion of the population speaks Spanish as a second language makes them in many ways fundamentally different. And to say that there is very little indigenous cultural influence is misleading when a great deal of the food, music and superstitions/beliefs/traditions are influenced by indigenous cultures.
No, only those particular groups would be very different. Not the county as a whole. I live in Canada, a significant part of the country speaks french. That doesnt take away the fact that anglo culture is the dominant one and that Canada has alot in common with other anglo countries.

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Again, not really true. Coastal regions are generally tropical, but inland is a completely different story. Most of Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia and Paraguay are mountainous highlands, while huge parts of Mexico are covered in desert and Argentina, Chile and Uruguay are more temperate. So please explain to me how the wine-growing regions of Chile have anything to do with the canefields of DR.
[/quote]It is true, look at a map. There are plenty of inland regions that are tropical. There are countries and regions that are outside of the tropics, and I understand that elevation changes the climate in many places, but most of Latin America lies within the tropics and has a tropical or sub-tropical climate. Ecuador and Paraguay are mostly tropical, and even Peru and Bolivia have large tropical areas.

Like I said before Latinos are not all the same, I am aware of that. Each country has it own unique flavor, some more than others, but there are also many similarities. I think there are more similarities then we like to admit.
 
Old 03-24-2014, 02:25 PM
 
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The correct term is "strictly Latin American" because to be Latin American is based on culture and history, not genetics.

And even if it was based on genetics, the average Dominican has Iberian blood in them (aka, Latin.) I've seen some studies that put Dominicans among the Latin American people with the highest input of Iberian blood in their mixture, more than is typical in most Latin American countries. This may come as a shock to some, because Dominicans are more often than not mixed with more African blood than is typical in Latin America, so many people judge them to be less Iberian than other Latin American people due to their African blood, but reality points in the opposite direction.

The typical Dominican has a genetic mixture that averages 52% Spanish origin, 44% African origin, and 3.6% Amerindian origin. This means that Dominicans have more Spanish blood in their mixture than in all other Latin American countries except five (Puerto Rico, Cuba, Costa Rica, Chile, and Venezuela); Dominicans also have the most African blood in their mixture than in any other Latin American country except Haiti; and Dominicans have some of the least Amerindian blood in Latin America with only Cubans and Haitians having less.

Spanish Blood in Admixture of the People
Puerto Rico 64.1%
Cuba 63.0%
Costa Rica 60.4%
Chile 54.5%
Venezuela 53.2%
Dominican Republic 52.0%
El Salvador 50.0%
Nicaragua 49.0%
Uruguay 48.2%
Paraguay 46.8%
Honduras 46.0%
Colombia 45.6%
Panama 39.7%
Ecuador 32.0%
Argentina 30.2%
Mexico 30.0%
Peru 28.0%
Bolivia 23.7%
Guatemala 22.0%
Belize 21.8%
Brazil 3.0%
Haiti 0.2%

African Blood in the Admixture of the People
Haiti 97.5%
Dominican Republic 44.4%
Cuba 33.5%
Colombia 17.3%
Belize 16.9%
Brazil 16.7%
Puerto Rico 15.8%
Venezuela 14.0%
Costa Rica 8.9%
Ecuador 7.0%
Panama 6.5%
Peru 5.7%
Nicaragua 4.5%
Uruguay 4.0%
Mexico 3.4%
Guatemala 2.6%
Argentina 2.0%
Honduras 2.0%
Chile 1.4%
Paraguay 1.0%
Bolivia 0.9%

Amerindian Blood in the Admixture of the People
Guatemala 72.9%
Bolivia 72.4%
Peru 64.2%
Mexico 62.5%
Ecuador 61.1%
Honduras 52.0%
El Salvador 50.0%
Paraguay 45.8%
Nicaragua 40%
Chile 37.3%
Colombia 37.1%
Panama 35.7%
Venezuela 31.0%
Costa Rica 29.7%
Puerto Rico 17.9%
Belize 11.5%
Brazil 9.1%
Argentina 5.0%
Uruguay 4.0%
Dominican Republic 3.6%
Cuba 2.5%
Haiti 0.0%

http://www.econ.brown.edu/fac/louis_...icas%201.1.doc

The percentages in the admixture of the people is based on an estimate done at Brown University using the share of migration from various origins into the population of each Latin American country. These are estimates.

This is how the estimates reach the conclusion that the typical Mexican is 30% Spanish, 3% African, and 63% Amerindian; the typical Ecuadorian is 32% Spanish, 7% African, and 61% Amerindian; the typical Puerto Rican is 64% Spanish, 16% African, and 18% Amerindian; the typical Peruvian is 28% Spanish, 6% African, and 64% Amerindian; etc.
In a study of Diabetes in the DR, The people with Diabetes tested on average mtDNA: 64% African, 22% Native American and 14% European. In the Non Diabetic population it was 51.5% Native American, 35.5% African and 9% European.
 
Old 03-24-2014, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Miami,FL
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Dominican Republic I mean.

They are a Latin American country, but culturally and racially share much with other parts of the Caribbean as opposed to places like Mexico and Guatemala.

How do you view them?
last I checked the Caribbean is part of the Americas.... Cubans,Dominicans, Puerto Rico are all part of latin america as is the carribean coast lines of central and South America.
 
Old 03-25-2014, 01:58 AM
 
Location: Canada
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last i checked the caribbean is part of the americas.... cubans,dominicans, puerto rico are all part of latin america as is the carribean coast lines of central and south america.
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:51 PM
 
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The stats you posted don't match up with the link you provided. Also, the African component for Panama is way too low. Most genetic studies consistently show that Panama is virtually 1/3 of African, 1/3 of Native American and 1/3 European.

Dominican Republic often has higher Taino, Native American and Asian contributions as well.

This link provides a genetic study on Panama and also has genetic stats for some Latin American and Caribbean nations as well that are mighty quite well rather intetesting. Check it out:

http://www.revistasmedicas.org/artic...dfMDAxLTEucGRm
His numbers do match up with his post. Either you didn't look at the link, or you read them incorrectly.
 
Old 03-28-2014, 03:48 AM
 
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last I checked the Caribbean is part of the Americas.... Cubans,Dominicans, Puerto Rico are all part of latin america as is the carribean coast lines of central and South America.
Right, and they are also part of the Caribbean as well. None of these terms are mutually exclusive.



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Old 03-28-2014, 03:50 AM
 
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His numbers do match up with his post. Either you didn't look at the link, or you read them incorrectly.
No they don't. I did read the link. He posted two different postings. I checked the links and both are slightly different. For example, the Spanish genetic component for DR in what he listed or copied and pasted is 52% but in the following corresponding link he posted, the Spanish genetic component is 50%.
 
Old 03-28-2014, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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We are both (well most of us to be accurate). Why should we be confined to one?
 
Old 03-28-2014, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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We are both (well most of us to be accurate). Why should we be confined to one?
True. Also there are a lot of connections that the DR has with West Indian islands.

Went to Guadeloupe last summer and Dominicans were all over. I also spoke to this lady who lives in the Bronx and is from ST. Kitts. She has family in both the DR and back home and her family travels both.

You also want to add Bahamas, Turks and cacos to that list also.
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