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Old 10-31-2013, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Kent, UK/ Rhode Island, US
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It's so funny when someone calls the US as ''America''. América is the continent. The country official name is United States of América, just in case. But we in America usually refer to it as United States...only
It's easier to just call the continent the Americas. For most people, when they think of America they think of the United States.

 
Old 10-31-2013, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Yes, that is actually true. Even in Mexico today there are many Indian tribes. There are places in Mexico where the people still don't speak Spanish. There is a difference between the Spanish and the Indian. Your grandmother is correct, although that isn't something we can tell you, because there are many mexicans who descend from the Spanish, which is quite different.
Those Mexicans who still speak native languages and have not assimilated into western culture are quite small in number, and would be the approximate equivalent of Native Americans who live on or near reservations. But nearly all Mexicans have assimilated into modern Mexican culture and speak only or mainly Spanish. Most of them have recognizable indigenous ancestry, and have abandoned their links with indigenout culture.

So, while most Mexicans have significant indigenous ancestry, very few still maintain the kind of indigenous cultural associations comparable to Native Americans in the USA.. So, while they are genetically Native (North) Americans, they are not culturally Native (North) Americans.
 
Old 10-31-2013, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Those Mexicans who still speak native languages and have not assimilated into western culture are quite small in number, and would be the approximate equivalent of Native Americans who live on or near reservations. But nearly all Mexicans have assimilated into modern Mexican culture and speak only or mainly Spanish. Most of them have recognizable indigenous ancestry, and have abandoned their links with indigenout culture.

So, while most Mexicans have significant indigenous ancestry, very few still maintain the kind of indigenous cultural associations comparable to Native Americans in the USA.. So, while they are genetically Native (North) Americans, they are not culturally Native (North) Americans.
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Not true , Natives are a minority in Mexico but they are still a much larger and visible group compared to Natives in the states. Natives in the states have very little of their culture left. In mexico many still speak their native languages. not comparable to natives in the states at all. Infact most Natives in the states or Canada would pass for mestizo in Mexico.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Not true , Natives are a minority in Mexico but they are still a much larger and visible group compared to Natives in the states. Natives in the states have very little of their culture left. In mexico many still speak their native languages. not comparable to natives in the states at all. Infact most Natives in the states or Canada would pass for mestizo in Mexico.
I'm not sure what it is that you are saying is "not true". Are you saying that a majority of Mexicans do not have any visible Native ancestry, and have physical characteristics that appear fully European?

What I said was, a majority of Mexicans have Native ancestry, but are acculturated as Western. Which (as a response to the OP) makes them A) Native Americans who are B) different from what Americans call Native Americans. What is "not true" about that?

I could be wrong about this because I don't have a wealth of exposure, but it is my understanding that many Native American tribes consider Mexican ancestry to validate Native American status, and a lot of American status Indians have a substantial amount of Mexican ancestry, and often Hispanic surnames. Which more directly addresses the OP

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Old 11-01-2013, 12:37 PM
 
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This, but probably not that much of the African part.
Well most Mexicans are triracial. They tend to be of European, Native American, and African descent. African ancestry on average tends to be somewhere between 5% to 10%
 
Old 01-13-2014, 11:54 PM
 
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About 38% is still pure blood Indian, but according ome studies done by white Mexicans, who are the ones that are trying to make Mexico appear more European, pny 14 % claim to be native. Estimates of 6.6 million speak 364 variations of 68 native languages. Zactecas and Aguacalites are the whites states, but still have large number of natives. We in Mexico have so much culture, because we kept our native culture and added some European culture. Almost all Mexicans maintain some of our native culture.

Great example of that is Food - Traditional Mexican cuisine - ancestral, ongoing community culture, the Michoacán paradigm
Traditional Mexican cuisine - ancestral, ongoing community culture, the Michoacán paradigm - YouTube

México City Native Americans still Maintain their Nahua culture. The Natives in this video are not speaking Spanish.

Pueblos indígenas de México conservan tradiciones y cultura - YouTube


Pirekua, traditional song of the P’urhépecha
UNESCO Culture Sector - Intangible Heritage - 2003 Convention :

Indigenous festivity dedicated to the dead UNESCO Culture Sector - Intangible Heritage - 2003 Convention :

Ritual ceremony of the Voladores
UNESCO Culture Sector - Intangible Heritage - 2003 Convention :

living traditions of the Otomí-Chichimecas people of Tolimán: the Peña de Bernal, guardian of a sacred territory
UNESCO Culture Sector - Intangible Heritage - 2003 Convention :

Xtaxkgakget Makgkaxtlawana: the Centre for Indigenous Arts and its contribution to safeguarding the intangible cultural heritage of the Totonac people of Veracruz, Mexico
UNESCO Culture Sector - Intangible Heritage - 2003 Convention :

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Old 01-16-2014, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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my great grandmother was born in Mexico, present day New Mexico. but she was Native American descent. isn't that what a Mexican is anyway, just they don't identify with specific tribes anymore? what am i part?
Those that are mestizo are part native american and should identify as such (of course it is their choice ultimately). There are also people that are completely indigenous. Native american extends to the whole American continent not just the U.S.
 
Old 01-16-2014, 08:38 AM
 
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Well most Mexicans are triracial. They tend to be of European, Native American, and African descent. African ancestry on average tends to be somewhere between 5% to 10%
Most? The African component has been under-counted in Mexico definitely but I wouldn't say most.
 
Old 01-16-2014, 06:28 PM
 
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my great grandmother was born in Mexico, present day New Mexico. but she was Native American descent. isn't that what a Mexican is anyway, just they don't identify with specific tribes anymore? what am i part?
Native North Americans, but not American Indian
 
Old 01-16-2014, 06:29 PM
 
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Those that are mestizo are part native american and should identify as such (of course it is their choice ultimately). There are also people that are completely indigenous. Native american extends to the whole American continent not just the U.S.
If you were born in the USofA - you are a Native American, but you may/may not be an American Indian.
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