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Old 03-27-2014, 07:42 AM
 
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I'd venture to say that the average Mexican mestizo likely has more Indigenous ancestry than the average person who self identifies as "Native American" in the United States.

 
Old 03-27-2014, 08:41 AM
 
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I'd venture to say that the average Mexican mestizo likely has more Indigenous ancestry than the average person who self identifies as "Native American" in the United States.
Mexican Americans on average tend to have predominantly European genetic ancestry.
 
Old 03-27-2014, 10:35 PM
 
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Yes, almost every single Mexican is Native American. Very few Mexicans don't have Native American blood. There are more pure blood Natives in Mexico than whites. Just look at us, we've got copper colored skin, high cheek bones, black hair, and brown eyes. In fact, the word "Mexico" itself is a Native American word. It's an Aztec word. The symbol on the Mexican flag is Aztec too. Stay proud, bud.
 
Old 03-28-2014, 06:06 AM
 
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Mexican Americans on average tend to have predominantly European genetic ancestry.
As does a large percentage of Americans who self-identify as Native American.
 
Old 03-29-2014, 06:36 AM
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As does a large percentage of Americans who self-identify as Native American.
The US suffers from negating the mixed races. In many cases its a long history of self-deception.

The reality is that there are not many Native Americans in the USA, most of the one's claiming to be are mere mestizos (mixed folks) that resent the fact they are mestizos (or could have their eyes on the economic benefits to claim a Native American identity, either way its a form a denial of reality.)

This denial of reality isn't limited to Native Americans, look what has happened to the mulattoes of the USA. To many people in the USA its as if the mulatto doesn't exist, even though they are everywhere starting with the president himself. A large percentage of people that the average US American sees as "blacks" are in fact mulattoes, but the negation of reality makes it hard for many people to notice unless someone points it out.

It seems as if large segments of US Americans love to pretend to be something they are not and if someone points out the truth (that most people claiming to be Native American or African American or most other hyphenated American) are in fact mixed people, then someone feels offended and begins to attack you. Messed up people that love self-deception. lol

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Old 03-29-2014, 07:10 AM
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There is a study that estimates the average admixture in various countries based on migration patterns through the centuries in each society.

Spanish Blood in Admixture of the People
Puerto Rico 64.1%
Cuba 63.0%
Costa Rica 60.4%
Chile 54.5%
Venezuela 53.2%
Dominican Republic 52.0%
El Salvador 50.0%
Nicaragua 49.0%
Uruguay 48.2%
Paraguay 46.8%
Honduras 46.0%
Colombia 45.6%
Panama 39.7%
Ecuador 32.0%
Argentina 30.2%
Mexico 30.0%
Peru 28.0%
Bolivia 23.7%
Guatemala 22.0%
Belize 21.8%
Brazil 3.0%
Haiti 0.2%

African Blood in the Admixture of the People
Haiti 97.5%
Dominican Republic 44.4%
Cuba 33.5%
Colombia 17.3%
Belize 16.9%
Brazil 16.7%
Puerto Rico 15.8%
Venezuela 14.0%
Costa Rica 8.9%
Ecuador 7.0%
Panama 6.5%
Peru 5.7%
Nicaragua 4.5%
Uruguay 4.0%
Mexico 3.4%
Guatemala 2.6%
Argentina 2.0%
Honduras 2.0%
Chile 1.4%
Paraguay 1.0%
Bolivia 0.9%

Amerindian Blood in the Admixture of the People
Guatemala 72.9%
Bolivia 72.4%
Peru 64.2%
Mexico 62.5%
Ecuador 61.1%
Honduras 52.0%
El Salvador 50.0%
Paraguay 45.8%
Nicaragua 40%
Chile 37.3%
Colombia 37.1%
Panama 35.7%
Venezuela 31.0%
Costa Rica 29.7%
Puerto Rico 17.9%
Belize 11.5%
Brazil 9.1%
Argentina 5.0%
Uruguay 4.0%
Dominican Republic 3.6%
Cuba 2.5%
Haiti 0.0%

http://www.econ.brown.edu/fac/louis_...icas%201.1.doc

Basically, the average Mexican is a mestizo mixed in the following proportions: 63% Amerindian, 30% Spanish, and 3% African.

I think the average Mexican is too mixed (on average a third of their DNA is non-Amerindian) to consider themselves just Native Americans. They are legitimate mestizos or mixed folks with a small minority of true Native Americans.

The typical mixture of Mexican mestizos is much more similar to Peruvian and Ecuadorian mestizos than to mestizos of most other countries. In Latin America only Peruvians, Bolivians, and Guatemalan have more Amerindian in their mixtures than Mexicans do; and in most Latin American countries the average person has more Spanish blood than is the case with the average Mexican (compare 30% Spanish blood in average Mexicans vs 46% in average Colombians, 49% in average Nicaraguans, 52% in average Dominicans; 60% in average Costa Ricans, or 64% in average Puerto Ricans.)
 
Old 03-29-2014, 10:48 AM
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Population density and distribution in Mexico. Here we can see that the bulk of Mexico's population lives in central and southern Mexico. The northern part of Mexico, which is also the 'whiter' part, is one of the least populated areas. I doubt much has changed since 2000.


http://sedac.ciesin.columbia.edu/dow...ty/mexdens.jpg

Mexico is also one of my most favorite countries and explains why I visit the country so often even though I'm not Mexican, I don't have Mexican ancestry, and I'm not related or dating anyone that is Mexican.
 
Old 03-29-2014, 10:59 AM
 
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YES. Really!!!!!
Most Mexican certainly do not have Asian or African ancestry.
 
Old 03-29-2014, 11:04 AM
 
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Basically, the average Mexican is a mestizo mixed in the following proportions: 63% Amerindian, 30% Spanish, and 3% African.
That's definitely not what the stats say. The stats say that only 3% of the Mexican population has African blood, which is very different from saying that the average Mexican is 3% African.
 
Old 03-29-2014, 01:21 PM
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There is a study that estimates the average admixture in various countries based on migration patterns through the centuries in each society.

Spanish Blood in Admixture of the People
Puerto Rico 64.1%
Cuba 63.0%
Costa Rica 60.4%
Chile 54.5%
Venezuela 53.2%
Dominican Republic 52.0%
El Salvador 50.0%
Nicaragua 49.0%
Uruguay 48.2%
Paraguay 46.8%
Honduras 46.0%
Colombia 45.6%
Panama 39.7%
Ecuador 32.0%
Argentina 30.2%
Mexico 30.0%
Peru 28.0%
Bolivia 23.7%
Guatemala 22.0%
Belize 21.8%
Brazil 3.0%
Haiti 0.2%

African Blood in the Admixture of the People
Haiti 97.5%
Dominican Republic 44.4%
Cuba 33.5%
Colombia 17.3%
Belize 16.9%
Brazil 16.7%
Puerto Rico 15.8%
Venezuela 14.0%
Costa Rica 8.9%
Ecuador 7.0%
Panama 6.5%
Peru 5.7%
Nicaragua 4.5%
Uruguay 4.0%
Mexico 3.4%
Guatemala 2.6%
Argentina 2.0%
Honduras 2.0%
Chile 1.4%
Paraguay 1.0%
Bolivia 0.9%

Amerindian Blood in the Admixture of the People
Guatemala 72.9%
Bolivia 72.4%
Peru 64.2%
Mexico 62.5%
Ecuador 61.1%
Honduras 52.0%
El Salvador 50.0%
Paraguay 45.8%
Nicaragua 40%
Chile 37.3%
Colombia 37.1%
Panama 35.7%
Venezuela 31.0%
Costa Rica 29.7%
Puerto Rico 17.9%
Belize 11.5%
Brazil 9.1%
Argentina 5.0%
Uruguay 4.0%
Dominican Republic 3.6%
Cuba 2.5%
Haiti 0.0%

http://www.econ.brown.edu/fac/louis_...icas%201.1.doc

Basically, the average Mexican is a mestizo mixed in the following proportions: 63% Amerindian, 30% Spanish, and 3% African.

I think the average Mexican is too mixed (on average a third of their DNA is non-Amerindian) to consider themselves just Native Americans. They are legitimate mestizos or mixed folks with a small minority of true Native Americans.

The typical mixture of Mexican mestizos is much more similar to Peruvian and Ecuadorian mestizos than to mestizos of most other countries. In Latin America only Peruvians, Bolivians, and Guatemalan have more Amerindian in their mixtures than Mexicans do; and in most Latin American countries the average person has more Spanish blood than is the case with the average Mexican (compare 30% Spanish blood in average Mexicans vs 46% in average Colombians, 49% in average Nicaraguans, 52% in average Dominicans; 60% in average Costa Ricans, or 64% in average Puerto Ricans.)
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Population density and distribution in Mexico. Here we can see that the bulk of Mexico's population lives in central and southern Mexico. The northern part of Mexico, which is also the 'whiter' part, is one of the least populated areas. I doubt much has changed since 2000.


http://sedac.ciesin.columbia.edu/dow...ty/mexdens.jpg

Mexico is also one of my most favorite countries and explains why I visit the country so often even though I'm not Mexican, I don't have Mexican ancestry, and I'm not related or dating anyone that is Mexican.
To all of that, people should also add this ancestry mixture study and compare with the population density and distribution.


Red = Native American
Blue = European
Yellow = Sub-Saharan African

Each circle shows the average admixture proportions in major urban Mexican populations, not ethnic compositions in each city.

I don't even know why some people here are in denial. Its almost as if some people are insulted that the average Mexican is a mestizo averaging roughly 60% Amerindian genetic input.
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