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Old 07-27-2014, 11:47 AM
 
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When I see Trinidad and Barbados, I see whites operating with a siege mentality. Why this is so is up to debate, as most people ignore them, sometimes even forgetting that they exist. A cousin who lives in Trinidad, explains that they are way more isolated than they were when she was in school in the 70s. Apparently they send their kids to the schools set up for expat kids.

These seem less so in Jamaica, where they seem to blend in more, maybe because every one knows that they no longer represent the wealth, Syrians do.
Their mentality is strange especially as you said most people ignore them. Syrians are the wealthiest Trinidadians too and we still have the whites behaving as they do.

 
Old 07-27-2014, 11:50 AM
 
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Their mentality is strange especially as you said most people ignore them. Syrians are the wealthiest Trinidadians too and we still have the whites behaving as they do.

I think that it is a guilty conscience. I could have seen in the 70s when there was still talk about "massa day done", but today people don't have time for that.

What is funny is that whites from nations, where race is much more of an issue than it is in the Caribbean, often interact more with the population at large than many Caribbean whites do, especially in T'dad and Barbados. Indeed there is an element who go down PRECISELY because they like Caribbean people.
 
Old 08-03-2014, 06:32 AM
 
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Except "the always loyal Island of Cuba", most Caribbean islands were sugar factories and white population was negligible.

Right; Spain, US occupation and later governments always tried to "whiten" the island. Problem is that whites sticked to citys and needed "sugar cutters" were mostly blacks, and white sugar cutters had unions.

The term Caribbean applies to non-Spanish Caribbean.
 
Old 08-03-2014, 06:34 AM
 
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In Miami, there have been a few occasions where I'd meet a very Chinese-looking person, who would be speaking English with a very very strong Caribbean accent, as opposed to the expected Chinese accent. I always found that quite interesting as well.


In Miami, most Chinese restaurants were at a time Cantonese-Cuban. Cuba had a very large Chinese colony, almost 5 percent of the population. Most are in the US, along with most whites, Jews, Syrians, etc.

The "Chinese Town" in Havana is a ghost town, as the rest of the city, most Chinese left. Mixed Chinese and Chinese in Havana preserved their culture, there's a Chinese Theater, a Chinese Pharmacy and "Chinese" remedies are popular.

They also have a presence in Cuban food, there's a Cuban Fried Rice, etc, etc.

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Old 08-03-2014, 09:57 AM
 
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In Miami, most Chinese restaurants were at a time Cantonese-Cuban. Cuba had a very large Chinese colony, almost 5 percent of the population. Most are in the US, along with most whites, Jews, Syrians, etc.

The "Chinese Town" in Havana is a ghost town, as the rest of the city, most Chinese left. Mixed Chinese and Chinese in Havana preserved their culture, there's a Chinese Theater, a Chinese Pharmacy and "Chinese" remedies are popular.

They also have a presence in Cuban food, there's a Cuban Fried Rice, etc, etc.
That's pretty cool...had no idea. It gives me an even stronger desire than I already have, to visit Cuba someday.
 
Old 08-06-2014, 04:58 PM
 
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One of the topics that I have tried to get information on is the attitudes of white Caribbean people in terms of their role in our colonial history. As you well know a non wealthy white Caribbean person is hard to find in the English speaking Caribbean, and this isn't because all whites were always wealthy. Alexander Hamilton (who most Americans have no idea is a West Indian, born in the island of Nevis, and raised in St Croix) was an example of poor whites leaving the Caribbean.

The question is to the extent to which they feel a pressure every time we learn about slavery in school, knowing that in many instances, their ancestors were involved. Their role in fostering the skin color hierarchy that lasted even past independence (and some might claim isn't completely gone).

They are a minority group, economically strong, but politically weak as they lack the numbers. So they must form alliances with others to protect their business interests.

When I see Trinidad and Barbados, I see whites operating with a siege mentality. Why this is so is up to debate, as most people ignore them, sometimes even forgetting that they exist. A cousin who lives in Trinidad, explains that they are way more isolated than they were when she was in school in the 70s. Apparently they send their kids to the schools set up for expat kids.

These seem less so in Jamaica, where they seem to blend in more, maybe because every one knows that they no longer represent the wealth, Syrians do.
I have a large number of relatives living in Barbados, Bequia, Grenada, St Lucia etc. -- never felt a "siege mentality" from any of them. They range from very "non-wealthy" to the other end of the spectrum. Pretty hard to be under siege when you're related to a good part of the population.

But it's really more complicated than that - - they have long and strong ties to the islands and aren't really going anywhere -
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