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View Poll Results: Which country?
Brazil 26 37.14%
Cuba 23 32.86%
Colombia 3 4.29%
Venezeula 6 8.57%
Panama 12 17.14%
Voters: 70. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Old 04-28-2012, 09:30 AM
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My daughter inlaw is from way down south,,Chile...very surprised how liberals she is...but I guess after making 30 thousand people disappear back in the early seventies..they could in effect cherry pick the types of citizens they wanted after the so-called socialist revolution...You can not make a bad joke around her regarding race...funny the kids last girl friend was from Guatemala ...Both of these women look white but don't think they are...but they want to be percieved as white...when they think they are black...but they look as white as snow to me....>>I don't get it....
You are very confused.

 
Old 04-28-2012, 10:07 AM
 
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Well, much more complex than that....
Allende made a mess and was grossly incompetent during a very difficult period. He made such a big mess that he called Pinochet to help him...
Chileans paid the price of his gross incompetence.
Such an irresponsible president right in the context of the cold war is like a rotten corpse, it will attract flies.
Now they say he committed suicide, I have heard many times in Cuba that he was killed by his Cuban bodyguards because he wanted to surrender.
As to the question about blacks, I think that the only American countries where blacks are equal to whites are the US and Canada.

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Old 04-28-2012, 10:20 AM
 
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My daughter inlaw is from way down south,,Chile...very surprised how liberals she is...but I guess after making 30 thousand people disappear back in the early seventies..they could in effect cherry pick the types of citizens they wanted after the so-called socialist revolution...You can not make a bad joke around her regarding race...funny the kids last girl friend was from Guatemala ...Both of these women look white but don't think they are...but they want to be percieved as white...when they think they are black...but they look as white as snow to me....>>I don't get it....
Well, if making thousands of people disappear effectively meant cherry-picking their citizens, wouldn't you expect Chileans to be far less liberal and far more conservative since it was the highly conservative authoritarian regime (which toppled the elected socialist government) which was responsible for the disappearances? Or did you somehow get the two confused?
 
Old 04-28-2012, 10:47 AM
 
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But a lot of those "missing persons" live in foreign countries, they tend to be hyperliberal, hypercommunists, play the guitar and hate barbers and Palmolive. There were like 100.000 or 200.000 in Spain. I visited Cuba at that time and there were like 30.000 "missing" Chileans, people there hated their guts because they received preferential treatment. While in Cuba, many were trained as guerrilla and urban guerrilla to use them in Latin America, but I guess that for them it was just an excuse to live as freeloaders because when the USSR fell and their food rations took a dip, they all left for Sweden and similar countries were you did not have to work if you claimed to be a "missing person".

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Old 04-28-2012, 12:27 PM
 
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Well, much more complex than that....
Allende made a mess and was grossly incompetent during a very difficult period. He made such a big mess that he called Pinochet to help him...
Chileans paid the price of his gross incompetence.
Such an irresponsible president right in the context of the cold war is like a rotten corpse, it will attract flies.
Now they say he committed suicide, I have heard many times in Cuba that he was killed by his Cuban bodyguards because he wanted to surrender.
As to the question about blacks, I think that the only American countries where blacks are equal to whites are the US and Canada.
in my country , from 1997 - 2009 , we had an incompetant goverment which made allandes look like FDR , they were still elected democratically however and the opposition neither ousted them with the help of a foreign nation or rounded up some thier supporters afterwards in a football stadium and massacred them , the amount of whataboutery in your post beggars belief , complex my arse
 
Old 04-28-2012, 12:31 PM
 
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Not comparable at all.
 
Old 04-28-2012, 12:58 PM
 
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Not comparable at all.
comparable as far as both are soverign nations , do you think if ireland had elected a socilist goverment in 1970 , the CIA would have been justified in backing an opposition coup ?
 
Old 04-28-2012, 01:27 PM
 
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Jamaica and Haiti they run the countries
 
Old 04-28-2012, 03:52 PM
 
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Jamaica and Haiti they run the countries
Jamaica and Haiti are not Latin American countries.
 
Old 04-28-2012, 05:54 PM
 
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I would say Brazil. Brazil-African ties are huge, in anthropological terms.

I would put Cuba toward the end of this list, but that's based on reading between the lines of what white Cubans I knew growing up said.
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