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Old 06-03-2012, 04:27 PM
 
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That's non relevantThat would be off topic, so I will only tell you that Britain and USA planned, implemented, supported and coordinated all the dictatorship in South America at the time.

The School Of The Americas -today renamed Western Hemisphere Institute for "Security" Cooperation- was the genocides and torturers training center.
I've just read an Argentine account of the actions of "The School of the Americas" and whilst informing me of the US actions not once does it mention Great Britain being involved.. strange that. Anyway, here's a link to the Article on an Argentinian News Website:

http://www.argentinaindependent.com/...y-cooperation/

Now, could you please show us a link to your source of information on the actions of The School of the Americas?
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Old 06-03-2012, 04:30 PM
 
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I'll ask again: "Please list your sources, references and links to appropriate data, so we can read first hand the information that you are giving us."
So I should cite all the sources?

There is no doubt that France had the first colony on the Falklands. There is no doubt that it was located on where the British live today, the East Falkland.

There is no doubt that Britain occupied Saunders Island, and none of the main islands. Neither West Falkland, not East Falkland.

Not even Britain denies that.

So, how come that the British claim that they were the first settlers? They were not.

How come that the British claim that they have right to the mainland? France was the first, and only one on the mainland. If proximity gives rights, then the French were the owners of Saunder islet, and British occupation was illegal.
If proximity does not gives rights, then Saunder islet gives no rigths over the mainland.

Any doubt on that? Do you need cites and sources?
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Old 06-03-2012, 04:32 PM
 
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I've just read an Argentine account of the actions of "The School of the Americas" and whilst informing me of the US actions not once does it mention Great Britain being involved.. strange that. Anyway, here's a link to the Article on an Argentinian News Website:

http://www.argentinaindependent.com/...y-cooperation/

Now, could you please show us a link to your source of information on the actions of The School of the Americas?
That's off topic. If you want to know open another thread.
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Old 06-03-2012, 04:35 PM
 
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That's off topic. If you want to know open another thread.
In other words .... "I don't have an counter-argument that will stand examination".
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Old 06-03-2012, 04:43 PM
 
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So, how come that the British claim that they were the first settlers? They were not.

Any doubt on that? Do you need cites and sources?
Yes please.
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Old 06-03-2012, 04:49 PM
 
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Yes please.
Well, I may cite the book Tempest in a Teapot: The Falkland Islands War.

It is not Argentine of British. The authors are from USA.

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If we regard actual occupation of the islands as a basis for claiming sovereignty, the Spanish again have the stronger case, based upon succession to the French colony of 1764, which France sold to Spain three years later; the French colony existed a year before the British settled Port Egmont. However, both the British and the Spanish withdrew their colonies, thereby leaving themselves open to charges of abandonment, and perhaps negating their original claims.
Now you should recognize that France was the first settler, and that France sold the territory to Spain.

Look at this map:



Port Egmont was not even on East or West Falkland.

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Old 06-03-2012, 04:57 PM
 
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Yep, i'll accept that, (i knew it anyway) and that's a historical fact that you have provided evidence to support. Thankyou. You should read the book by the way it's pretty good.

Now for the other part about: "So, how come that the British claim that they were the first settlers?"

Could you provide the same evidence to support that aswell please?
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Old 06-03-2012, 05:09 PM
 
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Yep, i'll accept that, (i knew it anyway) and that's a historical fact that you have provided evidence to support. Thankyou. You should read the book by the way it's pretty good.

Now for the other part about: "So, how come that the British claim that they were the first settlers?"

Could you provide the same evidence to support that aswell please?
That's non relevant. I see lots of British all over the internet saying that all the time.

What is relevant is that the French were the first settlers and they sold the settlement to Spain. And Britain didn't even had a settlement on the mainland.

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Old 06-03-2012, 06:27 PM
 
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Wow, this conversation just got intense

*Eats popcorn*
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Old 06-03-2012, 06:42 PM
 
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Britain is responsible of the dictatorship itself. Before the war Thatcher proudly called that scum "our dictators", and for "our" she meant the British.


We should be grateful? We have a pile of bodies, and I'm not speaking of the war, but of the innocent civilians whose assassinations were mandated by your country.
Oh my. Now you are really veering out into weirdo land.

The UK is responsible for your "Dirty War"? It wasn't UK soldiers and police kidnapping your population from 1976-1983, it was your own soldiers and police kidnapping and murdering civilians.

I think your "blame everyone else" politics is part of the attitude program and why Argentina went from being on the world's most prosperous countries at the beginning of the 20th century to a 2nd world financial basketcase backwater by the end of the 20th century.
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