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Old 05-03-2012, 04:09 AM
 
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A good article with further links at the bottom to other related stories at this 30yr anniversary of the Falklands War.

BBC News - Falkland Islands: How strong is Argentina's position?

"Thirty years after Argentina invaded the Falkland Islands, everyone here seems agreed on one thing: it will not happen again.
Military spending has been cut back savagely. Argentina's air force is still only equipped with the planes it had in 1982.
There is basically only enough money in the defence budget nowadays to pay the wages of the soldiers, sailors, airmen and civilians the armed forces ministry employs, and to finance their greatly-restricted local operations."
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Old 05-03-2012, 04:15 AM
 
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Nobody wants a war. Argentina is only making noises because it makes political sense to do so, the Falklands being an issue often used to deflect economic woe or other domestic issues.

The Argentina can boycott British goods if they want, the trouble for them is that they have a trade surplus with the UK, and that any unfair boycott of British goods will have to eventually be met by a EU Tariffs on Argentinan goods, as it would constitute unfair trading practices against an EU member.












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Old 05-03-2012, 05:09 AM
 
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A possible model for resolving this dispute could be provided by the way Finland and Sweden solved the crisis over the Aland Islands:

Åland crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 05-03-2012, 05:52 AM
 
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The Argentina can boycott British goods if they want, the trouble for them is that they have a trade surplus with the UK, and that any unfair boycott of British goods will have to eventually be met by a EU Tariffs on Argentinan goods, as it would constitute unfair trading practices against an EU member.
Do you think EU would do that? Three weeks ago there was a crisis between Spain and Argentina because of the expropiation in Argentina of a Spanish company.

Spanish government asked to the EU to renegotiate tariffs on Argentinian goods. The response of the EU: say a lot but do nothing. And french energy companies are negotiating with the Argentine government to replace the Spanish one.
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Old 05-03-2012, 05:57 AM
 
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argentina has no case at all , they have not owned the islands for nearly two hundred years and over 90% of residents of the islands identify themselves as british
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:00 AM
 
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Do you think EU would do that? Three weeks ago there was a crisis between Spain and Argentina because of the expropiation in Argentina of a Spanish company.

Spanish government asked to the EU to renegotiate tariffs on Argentinian goods. The response of the EU: say a lot but do nothing. And french energy companies are negotiating with the Argentine government to replace the Spanish one.
Hasn't the case gone been referred to the World Trade Organisation, whilst Spain has put it's own sanctions in place.

If Argentina continues on it's current course all that will hapen is more and more countries will impose trade restrictions and eventually the EU will be forced ro impose sanctions itself.

European Parliament calls for sanctions against Argentina - Telegraph

EU Planning WTO Complaint Against Argentine Import Curbs - Bloomberg
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:03 AM
 
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Most Argentinians don't give a crap about the Falkland, just as most Spanish don't give a crap about Gibraltar (a Tax Haven for Spanish politicians).

It's called Peronismo, Socialismo, Chavismo, Populismo... call it with whatever name you want...

You just need to stir up nitwits, borderlines, and hare-brained subsidised rabble to provoke a smoke curtain that hides how politicians steal money. Here in Spain, we have a region called Andalusia that is just like that.

As to Repsol, the president Brufau tried to play a poker game with marked cards with Argentinians, and as usual, Spain lost. The reputation of the Spain Trademark is way down, nobody respects this country. The socialists and communists that were in government 8 years entirely messed the country.
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:11 AM
 
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Most people in Britain didn't even know where the islands were until 1982 Cocoricoco. The trouble is now that soldiers have died retaking the islands it's impossible for political leaders to negotiate.

As for the islands they tend to Govern themselves, which is fine as far as I am concerned.

Falkland Islands Government - | Falkland Islands Government - Home

In terms of the people of Argentina, I am sure they are very nice people, and nobody wants to have to impose sanctions here. Which is why the EU and Britain haven't imposed them, the last thing we want to do is to see is ordinary Argentinian people lose their jobs and companies in Argentina to be punished due to actions of the current Government.
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Old 05-03-2012, 09:02 AM
 
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How about developing Stanley into an uber-dense skyscraper city for the hell of it? Up the stakes a bit for everyone's enjoyment.
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Old 05-03-2012, 09:12 AM
 
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A good article with further links at the bottom to other related stories at this 30yr anniversary of the Falklands War.

BBC News - Falkland Islands: How strong is Argentina's position?

"Thirty years after Argentina invaded the Falkland Islands, everyone here seems agreed on one thing: it will not happen again.
Military spending has been cut back savagely. Argentina's air force is still only equipped with the planes it had in 1982.
There is basically only enough money in the defence budget nowadays to pay the wages of the soldiers, sailors, airmen and civilians the armed forces ministry employs, and to finance their greatly-restricted local operations."
The Falklands war was a desperate attempt by a rather nasty military dictatorship to stay in power. Unfortunately for them, they found well trained and heavily armed British soldiers rather harder to push around than unarmed civilians.

All we need is one sub and/or a modern warship in the area and the Argentinians will continue to make a lot of noise ... but that is all.
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