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Old 05-15-2012, 02:59 AM
 
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But Brazil and China will peter out in a short time. You can't have such a gross inequality in a modern economy.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:02 AM
 
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No, Brazil has a long ways to go before it reaches US status. The next country to join the ranks of developed nations is Chile, not Brazil, and they will do so this decade. Chile has a much smaller economy than Brazil, but higher HDI. Something to think about. I think Russia would be a developed nation before Brazil would be.

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Mañana it's spanish, not portuguese.
In portuguese it's amanhã.
The Ñ it's a spanish letter that doesn't exist in portuguese.
It's manhã the letter doesn't exist, but the same sound does as nh.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:23 AM
 
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It's manhã the letter doesn't exist, but the same sound does as nh.
What I learned was that manhã means morning, amanhã means tomorrow. The expression "mañana mañana" means make the things days after.

Maybe depends on the region or is a colloquialism.
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Old 05-15-2012, 05:27 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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No.

However, countries of early industrialization are in relative decline, while the newly industrializing countries are in relative ascent. We will all approach each other somewhere in a mediocre middle, analogous to the ancient agriculture-based empires that succeeded one another.

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You can't have such a gross inequality in a modern economy.

It's not that gross anymore and, on that basis, it is possible if the global consumer base is big enough, at least for a while, and we live in a series of short-runs, not the long-run in which we are all dead.

Which do you prefer, sell a gadget at $1 apiece to 100M customers at relatively higher average fixed costs, or sell a gadget at $0.50 apiece, even $0.25 apiece, to 3Bn customers at relatively lower average fixed costs?

Do the math.

Not even the US will be the next US.

In the 21st Century, Brazil will be the next Brazil will be the next Russia will be the next China will be the next India will be the next EU, will be the next USA, and they will all be also-rans, like everybody else.

To the OP, if you, Antonio84, in the fleeting flower of your youth, are thinking of starting a career or setting up a business in Brazil, do it because you have particular competitive advantages in Brazil in the context of the global environment, not because of some hunch that Brazil in general may be a special winner in the globalization of industrialization, because, though sometimes it is true that all boats rise with the tide, it may also be true that without special skills and particular competitive advantages, even you could be a loser in the most relatively prosperous environment.

Case in point, I've done relatively well at sucking in revenues from a country of early industrialization that for at least two decades now has been in relatively sick and sad decline.

Good Luck!

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Old 05-15-2012, 05:33 AM
 
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Old 05-15-2012, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Queens THE REAL international city
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Honestly, I just hope Brazil stays Brazil but much more economically stable and improving (if that makes sense). I wouldn't want another "U.S." of the world, another country competing for world power and leadership in every facet. I love the culture of Brazil and wouldn't want to see that make a total face lift.
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Old 05-15-2012, 10:39 AM
 
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Brazil is cheaper...
Don't include Rio in that though, it is super expensive there. Yes, maid service is cheaper there, but restsurants, clothes, shoes, electronics, appliances, beer, etc are all more expensive.
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Old 05-15-2012, 05:50 PM
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Plus, most jobs in Brazil are very low pay. If you have any money at all, you can easily get maids for just a couple hundred dollars a month. That is inconceivable in the U.S., but the norm in Brazil. Meaning that while some people's jobs and incomes are getting better in Brazil, there are a ton of people still doing some extremely hard work for very little pay, which is the norm there.
With the rapid growth of the middle class, it must mean that wages are going up and inequality going down. Its as if Brazil is the U.S. of the early 20th century, when inequality was excessively high and then a period of rapid economic growth, income growth, and middle class growth created a more prosperous and equal society.

That's what the data is showing:


From Poverty to Power by Duncan Green » Blog Archive » Brazil’s boom; Africa’s pentecostals; food fears and more reasons to invest in health: highlights from this week’s Economist

Anyways, here are a few additional videos I found:

Brazil's Rising Middle Class


Brazil's Rising Star
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Old 05-16-2012, 01:48 AM
 
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But Brazil and China will peter out in a short time. You can't have such a gross inequality in a modern economy.
I agree with that sentiment, but I feel like Brazil is going to have an easier time slimming down that disparity than China.

China has more people in poverty than we have people, plus they've got a disastrous situation with the aging population coming up, and not enough young people to take care of them (thanks alot one child policy).

Brazil's sexy, it's got the landscape, the culture, the resources, and I think South America is ready to produce a genuine economic power.

It is still a far ways off though. It's not gonna be tomorrow. Maybe in like 20 years though.
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Old 05-16-2012, 04:30 AM
 
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I agree with that sentiment, but I feel like Brazil is going to have an easier time slimming down that disparity than China.

China has more people in poverty than we have people, plus they've got a disastrous situation with the aging population coming up, and not enough young people to take care of them (thanks alot one child policy).

Brazil's sexy, it's got the landscape, the culture, the resources, and I think South America is ready to produce a genuine economic power.

It is still a far ways off though. It's not gonna be tomorrow. Maybe in like 20 years though.
Well China economy is slowing yet it is now the nation with the worlds biggest consumers and the worlds biggest exporters. Brazil biggest market is now China too. It is hard to say yet on the eastern part of China is taking its boom and many of the inland areas are still undeveloped. It population is gradually changing from an mostly rural population to an urban population and there are winners and losers to this.
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