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Old 05-16-2013, 06:34 PM
 
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Brazil definitely. Almost all of the 'Brown' (mixed race) people in Brazil would be considered Black in America.

 
Old 05-17-2013, 01:20 AM
 
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And people with European ancestry is probably closer to 95%, right?
The only Brazilians who would show test 0 percent European in a DNA test are Indigenous Amerindian tribes and most Japanese Brazilians.

Bahia is is suppose to be the so-called "Blackest" state in Brazil, yet even the average Baiano still has more European admixture than the average African American.
 
Old 05-17-2013, 01:30 AM
 
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Brazil is more like the Caribbean than the USA is. That can be said. Brazil has been more open to racial mixing than the USA ever was. From what I've learned, Brazil's national vision is that of a multiracial state, where the blending of African, Europe, and Native American traditions and peoples have created the Brazil known today.
The majority of Non Hispanic Caribbeans like Jamaicans and Haitians do not look racially ambiguous/racially mixed in phenotype. The vast majority of them look like regular dark skin Blacks like Serena Williams and Idris Elba.

In DNA tests Haitians and Jamaicans average over 90 percent Sub Saharan African ancestry. So they are not exactly the best examples to use when it comes to mixed race societies, when genetically they are overwhelmingly Black.
 
Old 05-17-2013, 09:09 AM
 
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The only Brazilians who would show test 0 percent European in a DNA test are Indigenous Amerindian tribes and most Japanese Brazilians.

Bahia is is suppose to be the so-called "Blackest" state in Brazil, yet even the average Baiano still has more European admixture than the average African American.
And what do you base tese numbers off? Brazil as a whole has a population that is heavily mixed with indigenous, portuguese and African. Bahia is factually the most "Afro Brazilian" part of Brazil both ethnically and culturally. That is a fact.

And please do tell, what is the average amount European admixture of African Americans? Not trying to put you on the spot, but the number of true Americans of color whose ancestors were brought to America via slavery whom have European strands of DNA mixed in with African DNA is extremely high.

The issue is that people look at a person of color in the US and claim that they are Afro American which is false. Afro-Cubans, whom are Black are not Afro American. Caribbeans are not Afro-American. Puerto Ricans and Dominicans that are dark in skin are not Afro-Americans. To label them as such is erroneous.
 
Old 05-17-2013, 10:04 AM
 
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Depends on how you define Black. Is Barack Obama the first black president of the USA, or the 44th white president?
 
Old 05-17-2013, 11:40 AM
 
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Depends on how you define Black. Is Barack Obama the first black president of the USA, or the 44th white president?
I don't see any European features in Barack Obama. He couldn't possibly count as the 44th white president.
 
Old 05-17-2013, 11:54 AM
 
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I don't see any European features in Barack Obama. He couldn't possibly count as the 44th white president.
And native Kenyans can say he doesn't like look one of them. Yet, people insist on calling him black. Why should we choose his black side over his white side? He looks neither European nor East African.
 
Old 05-17-2013, 12:12 PM
 
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And what do you base tese numbers off? Brazil as a whole has a population that is heavily mixed with indigenous, portuguese and African. Bahia is factually the most "Afro Brazilian" part of Brazil both ethnically and culturally. That is a fact.

And please do tell, what is the average amount European admixture of African Americans? Not trying to put you on the spot, but the number of true Americans of color whose ancestors were brought to America via slavery whom have European strands of DNA mixed in with African DNA is extremely high.

The issue is that people look at a person of color in the US and claim that they are Afro American which is false. Afro-Cubans, whom are Black are not Afro American. Caribbeans are not Afro-American. Puerto Ricans and Dominicans that are dark in skin are not Afro-Americans. To label them as such is erroneous.
The average African American has around 17% to 18% European admixture.
Race Now: #2: How White Are Blacks? How Black Are Whites? by Steve Sailer for UPI; Mark. D. Shriver, admixture, genetic, gene, race, miscegenation, African-American, passing, Sally Hemmings

The average person from Salvador Bahia has 34 percent European admixture.
Salvador, Bahia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So the "Blackest" city in Brazil has 34 percent European admixture. I wonder how much European admixture the Whitest city in Brazil has.
 
Old 05-17-2013, 12:25 PM
 
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Depends on how you define Black. Is Barack Obama the first black president of the USA, or the 44th white president?
He is the first biracial President if Im not mistaken. He was raised by a white mother and Grandparents correct? Thats part of the issue....trying to define someones blackness. His opposition cannot even come to grips with the fact that he represents them as much as black people. He is the epitome of "African American". His father African, his mother American.

What do you think he is???
 
Old 05-17-2013, 12:29 PM
 
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The average African American has around 17% to 18% European admixture.
Race Now: #2: How White Are Blacks? How Black Are Whites? by Steve Sailer for UPI; Mark. D. Shriver, admixture, genetic, gene, race, miscegenation, African-American, passing, Sally Hemmings

The average person from Salvador Bahia has 34 percent European admixture.
Salvador, Bahia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So the "Blackest" city in Brazil has 34 percent European admixture. I wonder how much European admixture the Whitest city in Brazil has.
If they say so. Not here to argue over stats, though I will read thru those links. Sao Paulo for example, shipped IN German and Italian settlers in the early 20th century to "Whiten" the population.
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