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Old 08-15-2013, 09:16 PM
 
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Old 08-15-2013, 09:23 PM
 
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There are more Black people in Brazil than any country outside of Africa. The difference is that in Brazil many of African ancestry who have European/Indigenous admixture are not counted as Black rather Pardo.
That depends. The population that is categorized as black in Brazil is only somewhere between 6% and 10% of the population. Brazil is considered to be more so mostly mixed race and more white than anything according to censuses.

Afrodescent and black do NOT mean the same thing. They just aren't the same thing.
 
Old 08-22-2013, 05:19 AM
 
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In the US, I believe that 80% of the genes of all of those that identify as Black/African-American are African. So, I don't know how half of the Black people in the US are really Mulatto. About 30% of White people in the US have African genes supposedly ranging from 2-20%. This is according to a Scientific American article on race that I read several years ago.

Here's some more information: Black African American Demographics Geography (look at the bottom)
Most African Americans ARE mixed race.
 
Old 10-10-2013, 08:38 AM
 
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Brazil, especially in the North and Northeast, although you certainly would not have known it looking at the country's politicians, businesspeople. actors, models etc. But that is taking into account that so-called 'multiracial' people in Brazil areof overwhelmingly Black ancestry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...ties_by_region
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra..._and_ethnicity
 
Old 10-28-2013, 05:27 AM
 
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Brazil, especially in the North and Northeast, although you certainly would not have known it looking at the country's politicians, businesspeople. actors, models etc. But that is taking into account that so-called 'multiracial' people in Brazil areof overwhelmingly Black ancestry.
Demographics of Brazil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Demographics of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Brazil is overwhelmingly mixed race in varying degrees.
 
Old 10-28-2013, 05:30 AM
 
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Exactly. Approximately 30% of all Americans have black ancestry, and most African-Americans fall under the the "pardo" category of Brazil. I think due to the cultural differences regarding race, it's difficult to compare the two countries. I remember reading somewhere that in the US, one drop of "black" blood made you black, but in Brazil, one drop of "White" blood made you white.

In the US, there is a need to neatly categorize races and groups, with the intent of keeping "whites" pure, while in Brazil, the intention was for whites to "elevate" non-whites. These two different tactics created different results.

But yes, to quickly answer your question, there are more people with black ancestry in Brazil than the US, but if 30% of the US has "black" blood in them, the differences isn't that large...
Lol, the white race has NEVER been pure. It's all a bunch of crock. White people in the USA and White people in Brazil are mixed.
 
Old 10-30-2013, 03:12 PM
 
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...I think I said somewhere that Brazil is a beautiful ethnic fruit salad...







And tasty, buy the way...
 
Old 10-31-2013, 03:39 PM
 
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Officially there are a little over 13 million afro-brazillians in brazil (6.9%) compared to the 42 million african-americans in the US (13.6%).

Now i was under the impression brazil was the country in the americas with the most people of african decent? and it would make sense since brazil actually received the largest import of african slaves almost ten times the number of slaves from africa than the us did.

Can someone clear up this confusion for me?

The issue is that Brazil uses different "racial" categorizations than the USA does. In the USA to be "black" denotes membership in a specific ethnic group. This will make no sense to a Brazilian who categorize based on appearance.

To use the Cosby family as an example. An American see a black family. A Brazilian will see a family covering a range of categories, all with differing social implications.

Pardo also includes people who are Ibero-Indigenous and not parf African.

Bottom line is that no one knows, or probably will ever know how many "blacks" live in Brazil.
 
Old 10-31-2013, 03:43 PM
 
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The number of actual blacks in the US is less than the official figure. Remember that the US is in a serious denial of its mixed race population, especially their significant black/white mixed people. Having said this, things are changing.





















Tell you what. If you do not want Americans to demand that any Latin American, who in their eyes looks "black" ought to call themselves "black", then do not demand that those Americans who to your eyes look mixed ought not to call themselves "black".

In the USA the general norm is that one who is of DIRECT black/non black mixture is biracial. Those who have parents who are defined as black, regardless of appearance, are black, even though they will acknowledge some non black ancestry.
 
Old 10-31-2013, 03:47 PM
 
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And native Kenyans can say he doesn't like look one of them. Yet, people insist on calling him black. Why should we choose his black side over his white side? He looks neither European nor East African.

Obama says he is black, based upon how he has been treated in the USA. If he says that he is black he is black. Indeed it might even be possible that his white grandparents and mothert considered him black.
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