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Old 10-09-2012, 12:10 PM
 
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Let's see, how many African cities do you see on the list? Africa is by far the poorest continent in the world, yet, cities in places like the Congo or Somalia, are not as violent as cities in Latin America.
I doubt anyone is even really keeping track of murder statistics in places like Mogaidishu or the Eastern Congo. For one--in warzones it's often not even counted as murder, it's often just divided into military and civilian casualties. Secondly, they might not even have functioning police forces--local militias and clans are often not too big on statistics.
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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This is the full list of the 50 most dangerous cities in the world, as everyone can see, there are quite a few US cities there too.

Does that means the US is a disaster or maybe its just the Western Hemisphere that is a disaster?

Food for thought.

Position City Country Homicide People Rate
1 San Pedro Sula Honduras 1.143 719.447 158.87
2 Juarez Mexico 1.974 1,335,890 147.77
3 Maceió Brazil 1.564 1,156,278 135.26
4 Acapulco Mexico 1.029 804.412 127.92
5 Central District Honduras 1.123 1,126,534 99.69
6 Caracas Venezuela 3.164 3,205,463 98.71
7 Torreón (metropolitan) Mexico 990 1,128,152 87.75
8 Chihuahua Mexico 690 831.693 82.96
9 Durango Mexico 474 593.389 79.88
10 Belém Brazil 1.639 2,100,319 78.04
11 Cali Colombia 1.720 2,207,994 77.90
12 Guatemala Guatemala 2.248 3,014,060 74.58
13 Culiacan Mexico 649 871.620 74.46
14 Medellin Colombia 1.624 2,309,446 70.32
15 Mazatlan Mexico 307 445.343 68.94
16 Tepic (metropolitan area) Mexico 299 439.362 68.05
17 Vitoria Brazil 1.143 1,685,384 67.82
18 Veracruz Mexico 418 697.414 59.94
19 Ciudad Guayana Venezuela 554 940.477 58.91
20 San Salvador El Salvador 1.343 2,290,790 58.63
21 New Orleans United States 199 343.829 57.88
22 Salvador (and RMS) Brazil 2.037 3,574,804 56.98
23 Cucuta Colombia 335 597.385 56.08
24 Barquisimeto Venezuela 621 1,120,718 55.41
25 San Juan Puerto Rico 225 427.789 52.60
26 Manaus Brazil 1.079 2,106,866 51.21
27 São Luís Brazil 516 1,014,837 50.85
28 Nuevo Laredo Mexico 191 389.674 49.02
29 João Pessoa Brazil 583 1,198,675 48.64
30 Detroit United States 346 713.777 48.47
31 Cuiabá Brazil 403 834.060 48.32
32 Recife Brazil 1.793 3,717,640 48.23
33 Kingston (metropolitan) Jamaica 550 1,169,808 47.02
34 Cape Town South Africa 1.614 3,497,097 46.15
35 Pereira Colombia 177 383.623 46.14
36 Macapá Brazil 225 499.116 45.08
37 Fortress Brazil 1.514 3,529,138 42.90
38 Monterrey (metropolitan area) Mexico 1.680 4,160,339 40.38
39 Curitiba Brazil 720 1,890,272 38.09
40 Goiânia Brazil 484 1,302,001 37.17
41 Nelson Mandela Bay Metropolitan Municipality (Port Elizabeth) South Africa 381 1,050,930 36.25
42 Barranquilla Colombia 424 1,182,493 35.86
43 ST. Louis United States 113 319.294 35.39
44 Mosul Iraq 636 1,800,000 35.33
45 Belo Horizonte Brazil 1.680 4,883,721 34.40
46 Panama Panama 543 1,713,070 31.70
47 Cuernavaca (metropolitan area) Mexico 198 630.174 31.42
48 Baltimore United States 195 620.961 31.40
49 Durban South Africa 1.059 3,468,087 30.54
50 City of Johannesburg South Africa 1.186 3,888,180 30.50

World´s 50 Most Dangerous Cities | Mictlantecuhtli

Simply end the War on Drugs and this list would look alot different. And generally drug dealers kill other drug dealers.

But please pardon Repubocrat, he has a handicap.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Iowa, Heartland of Murica
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I thought there are 4.1 million Americans living overseas, plus another 550,000 military and government people.

Someone should check to see if it's still true or if it has risen.

For people like the guy in the video, I am sure life in Brazil would be better than life here in the USA. These people are mostly uneducated immigrants who come to the USA often illegally, to make as much as money as possible and go back to Brazil.

These people are not adding anything to American society, they don't assimilate American culture, many don't even speak English well or respect the laws of the USA- so, obviously, a person like that would better off going back to Brazil, because they don't contribute to American society in any way, shape or form.

My parents came here legally to contribute and become part of this society- I am proud to call this country home, yet, it does not mean that I have forgotten my roots- I have both passports and I could go live in Brazil if I wanted to but I don't see any logical reason to do that.
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:53 PM
 
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I"ve been to 11 and had a great time in each and every one of them cause I'm like a ninja. You couldn't spot me in daylight. No joke you just have to be careful and ALWAYS, I mean ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS on your toes. And this practice I have taken into my travels of safer cities and I have yet to run into trouble that I couldve avoided. I always have an escape route, I do this for fun, but its part of practicing being on your toes. I always spot trouble. If you're going to die, die for something worthwhile and not something you couldve avoided.
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:25 PM
 
Location: DF
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This is the full list of the 50 most dangerous cities in the world, as everyone can see, there are quite a few US cities there too.

Does that means the US is a disaster or maybe its just the Western Hemisphere that is a disaster?

Food for thought.

Position City Country Homicide People Rate
1 San Pedro Sula Honduras 1.143 719.447 158.87
2 Juarez Mexico 1.974 1,335,890 147.77
3 Maceió Brazil 1.564 1,156,278 135.26
4 Acapulco Mexico 1.029 804.412 127.92
5 Central District Honduras 1.123 1,126,534 99.69
6 Caracas Venezuela 3.164 3,205,463 98.71
7 Torreón (metropolitan) Mexico 990 1,128,152 87.75
8 Chihuahua Mexico 690 831.693 82.96
9 Durango Mexico 474 593.389 79.88
10 Belém Brazil 1.639 2,100,319 78.04
11 Cali Colombia 1.720 2,207,994 77.90
12 Guatemala Guatemala 2.248 3,014,060 74.58
13 Culiacan Mexico 649 871.620 74.46
14 Medellin Colombia 1.624 2,309,446 70.32
15 Mazatlan Mexico 307 445.343 68.94
16 Tepic (metropolitan area) Mexico 299 439.362 68.05
17 Vitoria Brazil 1.143 1,685,384 67.82
18 Veracruz Mexico 418 697.414 59.94
19 Ciudad Guayana Venezuela 554 940.477 58.91
20 San Salvador El Salvador 1.343 2,290,790 58.63
21 New Orleans United States 199 343.829 57.88
22 Salvador (and RMS) Brazil 2.037 3,574,804 56.98
23 Cucuta Colombia 335 597.385 56.08
24 Barquisimeto Venezuela 621 1,120,718 55.41
25 San Juan Puerto Rico 225 427.789 52.60
26 Manaus Brazil 1.079 2,106,866 51.21
27 São Luís Brazil 516 1,014,837 50.85
28 Nuevo Laredo Mexico 191 389.674 49.02
29 João Pessoa Brazil 583 1,198,675 48.64
30 Detroit United States 346 713.777 48.47
31 Cuiabá Brazil 403 834.060 48.32
32 Recife Brazil 1.793 3,717,640 48.23
33 Kingston (metropolitan) Jamaica 550 1,169,808 47.02
34 Cape Town South Africa 1.614 3,497,097 46.15
35 Pereira Colombia 177 383.623 46.14
36 Macapá Brazil 225 499.116 45.08
37 Fortress Brazil 1.514 3,529,138 42.90
38 Monterrey (metropolitan area) Mexico 1.680 4,160,339 40.38
39 Curitiba Brazil 720 1,890,272 38.09
40 Goiânia Brazil 484 1,302,001 37.17
41 Nelson Mandela Bay Metropolitan Municipality (Port Elizabeth) South Africa 381 1,050,930 36.25
42 Barranquilla Colombia 424 1,182,493 35.86
43 ST. Louis United States 113 319.294 35.39
44 Mosul Iraq 636 1,800,000 35.33
45 Belo Horizonte Brazil 1.680 4,883,721 34.40
46 Panama Panama 543 1,713,070 31.70
47 Cuernavaca (metropolitan area) Mexico 198 630.174 31.42
48 Baltimore United States 195 620.961 31.40
49 Durban South Africa 1.059 3,468,087 30.54
50 City of Johannesburg South Africa 1.186 3,888,180 30.50

World´s 50 Most Dangerous Cities | Mictlantecuhtli
This is where stats are misleading. Maybe Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans and St Louis have higher homicide rates than two South African cities, but you are at a WAY greater risk in both South African cities just walking around in broad daylight than you are in any of the American cities. Yawn... another statistical fail.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:20 PM
 
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There are 1.5 million Brazilians living overseas- In the UK, Brazilians are the #1 nationality when it comes to people living in the country illegally.

If Brazil offers such a high quality of life, why would it rank #84 in the World for HDI? I live in the USA and also in Gerrmany and I can say both offer great quality of life, they rank #4 and #9, respectively, just some food for thought.
1.5 million out of a country with 200 million people. That is less than 1% living overseas. That is a very low number, almost every "rich" country has a far higher % of population living outside their homeland.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:54 PM
 
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1.5 million out of a country with 200 million people. That is less than 1% living overseas. That is a very low number, almost every "rich" country has a far higher % of population living outside their homeland.
And from what I've heard, some Brazilians are returning to Brazil.
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Old 11-28-2012, 12:19 AM
 
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Third world

43 ST. Louis United States 113 319.294 35.39
44 Mosul Iraq 636 1,800,000 35.33

Mother of pearl!
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Old 11-28-2012, 02:36 AM
 
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Just to be fair, to our Brazilian cheerleaders, I am not going to make this Brazil specific but according to this video, the top 3, most dangerous cities in the World are in Latin America. Is there any doubt that something wrong with this "Latin" culture?

1- San Pedro Sula, Honduras
2- Ciudad Juarez, Mexico
3- Maceió, Brazil


Here is a video about Maceió, probably the most interesting case out of the top 3- I think everybody knows that Juarez and San Pedro Sula are two of the worst crapholes in the World but here is a video about what is happening in Maceió


On patrol in Maceio, Brazil's most violent city
So tell me, Repubocrat, who do you think is worse - spics or nig..... blacks?
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Old 11-28-2012, 08:10 PM
 
Location: DF
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As people who live in third world countries, sometimes we love to use statistics to make us feel better. We see homicide rates in the U.S. comparable to our own countries' and we pat ourselves on the shoulder and say, "aaah, we're not that bad"

The problem is, crime reporting in countries like the U.S. is extremely sophisticated, and has a small margin of error in accuracy. In contrast, numbers in the third world, particularly latin america, are extremely skewed. Police captains trying to save face will move murdered bodies around, sometimes declare drownings, etc. Officials, in order to provide the public with some false sense of security, or to ingratiate themselves either with their constituents, outside donors, or with their superiors, often manipulate data like crime statistics to their favor.

Moreover, in many countries in the world, some murders aren't even reported, as there is no life insurance or pension to be gotten out of reporting the murder.

Of course, there are GLARING examples where officials cannot escape reality... i.e. most cities in Mexico, cases of extremely high incidences of violence, etc.... but you can't really compare murder statistics provided by credible bodies like U.S. reporting agencies, with statistics provided by a couple of good ol' boys in Ecuador. (I just picked an arbitrary country, all you Ecuador cheerleaders please keep your panties dry)
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