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Panamanians are NOT West Indian. If that's the case, then Ecuadorians should be considered West Indian since a lot of West Indians to Ecuador. Hell, many Jamaican descendants live in Australia. Does that mean Australians in the USA should be considered West Indian?
Guyana does NOT even touch or border the Caribbean Sea and it's not even an island.
Also what about Mexico, Venezuela, Colombia which have Caribbean coast lines? Are they Caribbean?
Guyana is culturally Anglo-caribbean similar to Jamaica, Grenada etc...
And yet clearly they are a highly differentiated group from the majority of non Hispanics, typically have very distinct ethnic identities and every single sociological analysis will show that they pursue different paths of incorporation into the USA. There is a relationship between non Hispanic blacks from the Caribbean and the USA, no matter how SOME people from either side might wish to deny this.
Lol. I don't get your point. Puerto Ricans, Cubans, and Dominican Republic peoples are Caribbeans, and West Indians. In addition they also are Hispanic/Latino. In Spanish the terms "antillano" and "caribeño" exist which denotes PR, Cuba, and DR's ties and relations within the region and it's people. It's all in the Greater Antilles for goodness sakes.
And people from the Caribbean can be of any race or racial admixture combinations.
Hispanic has been used in USA and it was first used to describe the mexicans that lived in the Southwest when those areas became part of the USA, the original Hispanics are Americans who have Mexican ancestry like Eva Longoria who has been in this country since Texas used to belong to Mexico
Latino was first coined in Mexico, nowhere near your islands, the original Latinos are Mexicans since French brought that word to Mexico during the French invasion and called Mexicans Latinos, they were the first Latin Americans to be called Latinos and that is when Mexico started to promote the word Latino to unit all Latin American into one word
The term Latin America was supported by the French Empire of Napoleon III during the French invasion of Mexico, as a way to include France among countries with influence in America and to exclude Anglophone countries, and played a role in his campaign to imply cultural kinship of the region with France. The idea was taken up by Latin American intellectuals and political leaders of the mid- and late-nineteenth century, who no longer looked to Spain or Portugal as cultural models, but rather to France.
So you are wrong to say Caribbean Hispanics can call themselves Latino because the term is original to them, FALSE, the term is original to the Mexican population since it was coined there and introduce to the rest of you thanks to them
Not true, Chicano means Mexican-American lol they take offense if you confuse them for anything else other than Mexican, Chicanos do not like being called Latinos, dont even go to a Chicano cholo and tell him he is a Latino because he will break your neck, he will correct you and tell you they are Mexican-Americans or even Aztecs
Eva Longoria does NOT have Mexican ancestry. She does NOT even speak Spanish. She descends from people that lived in various parts of what is now the USA that was under French and Spanish colonial rule. But none of Eva Longoria's family was from Mexico. Her ancestors date back to lands now part of the USA since the 1500s. If Eva Longoria is "Hispanic/Latina", then technically Beyonce is too since her mother is a descendant of peoples that lived under French and Spanish colonial rules. In fact Beyonce and Eva Longoria may share some of the same ancestors. Eva Longoria is of European, African, and Native American descent, and her genetic studies prove this fact that she is indeed tri/multiracial.
Beyonce is half Bahamian from her father and half Louisiana Creole from her mother.
That's due to most black Panamanians and Costa Ricans descend from Jamaicans and other blacks from the British West Indies. Also blacks from Nicaragua and Honduras have ties to the British West Indies too. What today is known as Costa Rica and Panama was never a massive slave region for the Spanish. Only Mexico (although much of that population has been absorbed), Cuba, Venezuela, and Colombia were major slave owning areas in the Spanish empire.
In the rest of the Spanish Caribbean (Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic) were among the areas that received the least amount of African slaves due to the extreme poverty of these places during colonial times.
In general, the Spanish didn't had much need to import African slaves, especially when its compared to the British and the French.
Here is more footage of blacks in Panama that are NOT West Indian at all.
That's due to most black Panamanians and Costa Ricans descend from Jamaicans and other blacks from the British West Indies. Also blacks from Nicaragua and Honduras have ties to the British West Indies too. What today is known as Costa Rica and Panama was never a massive slave region for the Spanish. Only Mexico (although much of that population has been absorbed), Cuba, Venezuela, and Colombia were major slave owning areas in the Spanish empire.
In the rest of the Spanish Caribbean (Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic) were among the areas that received the least amount of African slaves due to the extreme poverty of these places during colonial times.
In general, the Spanish didn't had much need to import African slaves, especially when its compared to the British and the French.
That's due to most black Panamanians and Costa Ricans descend from Jamaicans and other blacks from the British West Indies. Also blacks from Nicaragua and Honduras have ties to the British West Indies too. What today is known as Costa Rica and Panama was never a massive slave region for the Spanish. Only Mexico (although much of that population has been absorbed), Cuba, Venezuela, and Colombia were major slave owning areas in the Spanish empire.
In the rest of the Spanish Caribbean (Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic) were among the areas that received the least amount of African slaves due to the extreme poverty of these places during colonial times.
In general, the Spanish didn't had much need to import African slaves, especially when its compared to the British and the French.
Here is another video in regards to bunde and bullerengue which are vestiges of cultural, dance, and musical and material cultures brought to Panama by the African slaves during colonial times. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Caribbean or the West Indies:
Guyana is culturally Anglo-caribbean similar to Jamaica, Grenada etc...
And what exactly is "Anglo-Caribbean"? Does that or can it include some parts of the USA? Why is Bermuda even considered Anglo Caribbean?
Guyana was a British colony but geographically and topographically it doesn't even touch the Caribbean Sea. As for culture, doesn't Guyana have an identity as it's own?
Grenada seems to be more French based and influenced rather than British and has a more similar orientation to islands like Saint Lucia, Dominica, and Trinidad etc
Here is a video on the communities of Isla Saboga which is one of the islands of the Pearl Islands Archipielago located in the pacific side of the isthmus. The Pearl Islands are inhabited entirely by blacks. The blacks of the Pearl Islands descend from blacks that were born and raised in Spain, that were conquistadores and/or servants or indentured servants as well as slaves. Many slaves escaped and settled on Isla Del Rey (also known as Isla San Miguel, which is the capital city of Isla del Rey.)
Many people died digging for pearls and drowning in the waters, or were even eaten alive by sharks and some even comitted suicide to escape the brutal colonialist regime of serving their Spanish masters and owners.
But see this video of a community telling their story of life on Isla Saboga:
And what exactly is "Anglo-Caribbean"? Does that or can it include some parts of the USA? Why is Bermuda even considered Anglo Caribbean?
Guyana was a British colony but geographically and topographically it doesn't even touch the Caribbean Sea. As for culture, doesn't Guyana have an identity as it's own?
Grenada seems to be more French based and influenced rather than British and has a more similar orientation to islands like Saint Lucia, Dominica, and Trinidad etc
I know the English speaking Caribbean and its culture perfectly well thank you very much!
Guyana is culturally English speaking Caribbean / Anglo-Caribbean it includes all the English speaking islands in the Caribbean sea and Belize and Guyana on the mainland, as you said it because of the fact it was in the British empire.
St Lucia, Dominica, Trinidad, St vincent and Grenada do have a significant French influence but Barbados doesn't...anyway even down to dialect and food Guyana (and Belize) is very much Caribbean culturally.
That's due to most black Panamanians and Costa Ricans descend from Jamaicans and other blacks from the British West Indies. Also blacks from Nicaragua and Honduras have ties to the British West Indies too. What today is known as Costa Rica and Panama was never a massive slave region for the Spanish. Only Mexico (although much of that population has been absorbed), Cuba, Venezuela, and Colombia were major slave owning areas in the Spanish empire.
In the rest of the Spanish Caribbean (Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic) were among the areas that received the least amount of African slaves due to the extreme poverty of these places during colonial times.
In general, the Spanish didn't had much need to import African slaves, especially when its compared to the British and the French.
Noé Alvarado is a black man, honored for his struggles, trials, and tribulations. He is a descendant of black Africans that were enslaved in Panama:
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