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Old 05-23-2014, 09:18 PM
 
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Malcolm Gladwell is half Jamaican, but I'm not sure if he'd be considered black even in the U.S.


 
Old 05-23-2014, 10:30 PM
 
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Malcolm Gladwell is half Jamaican, but I'm not sure if he'd be considered black even in the U.S.
Of course he could be considered Black if he choose to identify as such. The reality is that most African Americans see mixed-race(half-Black) people no differently when it comes to being part of the Black race.
 
Old 05-24-2014, 11:01 AM
 
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Many things are left to consider when it comes to race and ethnicity. My mother is a Black woman. She has some Louisiana Creole ancestry, as well as some Irish and Native American. She is a light-skinned woman. She has been mistaken for Puerto Rican or other Hispanic ethnic groups. In fact, a Puerto Rican actually went up to my mother and began speaking Spanish to her. However, because she has African ancestry, she's considered Black in the USA. In a place like Puerto Rico, Haiti, or elsewhere in the Caribbean, it is more likely she will be thought of as mixed race. In the USA, she is considered Black. The one-drop rule is something heavily used in the USA.
 
Old 05-24-2014, 11:35 AM
 
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I don't get how Barack Obama is considered black he's not!
 
Old 05-24-2014, 12:13 PM
 
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In which countries would Christopher Reid be viewed as white?
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing.
 
Old 05-24-2014, 12:15 PM
 
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I don't get how Barack Obama is considered black he's not!
Yup, he would be mistaken for an Irishman. What people realize, but I believe that his mother was part Native American. So, he technically is more Black than anything else.
 
Old 05-24-2014, 12:18 PM
 
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Of course he could be considered Black if he choose to identify as such. The reality is that most African Americans see mixed-race(half-Black) people no differently when it comes to being part of the Black race.
Basically and there is a socio-historical reason as to why that is. After all, the signs said "Colored" generally for a reason, as race constructed was done in a way of purity/supremacy by the constructors, but others may have viewed it through a more social, historical and to some degree biological lens.
 
Old 05-24-2014, 12:34 PM
 
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Basically and there is a socio-historical reason as to why that is. After all, the signs said "Colored" generally for a reason, as race constructed was done in a way of purity/supremacy by the constructors, but others may have viewed it through a more social, historical and to some degree biological lens.
A big reason why the "one drop rule' was formulated. There was a strong obsession of "racial purity" in the USA. It was generally looked at as "there is White" and then "everyone else". And even within that, there were certain degrees of treatment. The "one drop rule" specifically applied to Blacks. It was constructed against Blacks.

An example. In Oklahoma, it was legal for a White person and a Native American person to intermarry. However, it was illegal for a Black person to intermarry with either Whites or Native Americans.
 
Old 05-24-2014, 02:36 PM
 
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The one-drop-rule was specifically applied to mulattoes, because there is no way a person of African descent with extremely little or no admixture would be considered anything other than black.

It was designed to be applied to the Barack Obama, Alicia Keys, Bob Marley, Derek Jeter, Halle Barry, Andre Brown of those times.

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Old 05-24-2014, 03:21 PM
 
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The one-drop-rule was specifically applied to mulattoes, because there is no way a person of African descent with extremely little or no admixture would be considered anything other than black.

It was designed to be applied to the Barack Obama, Alicia Keys, Bob Marley, Derek Jeter, Halle Barry, Andre Brown of those times.
Those persons who have any African ancestry. For that reason, persons who were mulatto would be considered Black, even if they didn't look particularly Black. Derek Jeter, for instance, could pass for Sicilian if he wanted to. However, the "one drop rule" classifies him as Black.

What I was trying to say is that the one drop rule was applied to make sure anyone with any African ancestry was basically excluded from society.
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