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Old 01-05-2014, 11:38 AM
 
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Centuries of contact amongst different ethnic groups have projected much interbreed.

 
Old 01-05-2014, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Brazil
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What is "white"? You put "-" refering to mixed?
Generally white are not the mixed, but the dissendents from Europeans. Most of then came in the second half of 19th century or in the first half of the 20th century, so they dont have centuries of contact yet.
 
Old 01-05-2014, 07:24 PM
 
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What is "white"? You put "-" refering to mixed?
Generally white are not the mixed, but the dissendents from Europeans. Most of then came in the second half of 19th century or in the first half of the 20th century, so they dont have centuries of contact yet.

Almost 50% of Brazilians self identify as white. Do you think that they are all recent European immigrants or their recent descendants? What about the 40-60% of Cubans?

Often we are told that some one isn't black if they have vague non African ancestry. I have been told this even though DNA ancestry analysis indicates that I am 83% African. In fact some Latins (almost always from elite backgrounds) have been very vehement about my self identification as black, and how "racist" this is.

I just want to know if the same rules apply to those who self identify as white. Maybe the OP as well, given the lengthy discussion about how "mixed" African Americans are, with the implication that they are deluded, confused, or just plain racist if they self identify as black if they have non African ancestry.
 
Old 01-05-2014, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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If it were up to me, there would be no such thing as mixed. People would just pick one thing, and wouldn't be allowed to change. These hair splitting "mixed" conversations are very unproductive, and a waste of energy. I wish people would just simplify ethnicity, it's better for everyone that way.
 
Old 01-06-2014, 04:43 AM
 
Location: Brazil
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Almost 50% of Brazilians self identify as white. Do you think that they are all recent European immigrants or their recent descendants?
No, I didnt mean that all the 50% has no miscigination, I just though it strange that an mexican (a non-american) put "-" like if we hadnt any european emmigration in Latin America.

About the main question, how mixed they are, it obviously depends on the person.

Being a brazilian I think its very weird this american classification of latin, diferently of white or black americans.
 
Old 01-06-2014, 03:24 PM
 
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why does it matter?
 
Old 01-07-2014, 02:28 AM
 
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why does it matter?

Did you ask this question when people were pontificating about how mixed African Americans are?
 
Old 01-07-2014, 11:48 AM
 
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Maybe in some parts of Brazil I would be classified as white.

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Old 01-07-2014, 12:33 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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"Whiteness" in Latin America is self determined. Its generally based upon how one looks and not on one's actual ancestry. So a person can have a 'negro' or 'indio' parent and still be 'blanco'. Even Latin Americans as dark as Kerry Washington will say that they are not "black" and ones with obvious indigenous features will still state that they are 'white'.

I would estimate that 90% of 'white' Latin Americans have not so distant non-European ancestry.
 
Old 01-07-2014, 03:03 PM
 
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Significantly so.

Remember that in many, if not most Latin American nations the majority of the population identifies as White based on phenotype.

For example, 80% of Puerto Ricans identified as White in the census, but 61% have native american maternal ancestry and 27% have African maternal ancestry, meaning that the overwhelming majority of Boricuas are at the very least mixed-race.
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