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View Poll Results: Do most people care what US Americans think of their society?
Yes (I'm US American) 7 31.82%
No (I'm US American) 12 54.55%
Yes (I'm not US American) 1 4.55%
No (I'm not US American) 2 9.09%
Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-03-2014, 06:01 AM
 
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You see comments like in bold get on my nerves from Americans. You think your country is somehow the only Country that is modern and progressive.

Americans live a lie that their country is perfect and other countries are somehow lesser.

Many people flock to France, UK, Sweden, Netherlands, Canada and Australia in DROVES, too.


Isolationism, a nation-continent in which only a few people have contact with the outside world. American papers are like the Brighton Weekly, they talk about the dead of a cat named "peyote" that lived in a famous pub.
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Old 08-03-2014, 09:21 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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That's a pet peeve of mine as well.

Particularly when I look at all the deficiencies of the U.S.
Mine too as well as constantly saying we're a free country as if we're the only free country in the world.
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Old 08-03-2014, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Macao
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Mine too as well as constantly saying we're a free country as if we're the only free country in the world.
And even moreso when I see the many restrictions in the U.S. compared to other countries.

For example, I can drink a beer on a train or a beach throughout Japan, Korea, China, most of Asia, probably much of Europe. Can't do either one in the U.S.

Another is businesses. In Asia, the true entrepreneur spirit is alive and well. You have every kind of small business you can possibly imagine. I go back to the U.S., and there are so many laws, you basically have to get a franchise to get a business, and you'll be zoned to run that business in some high-overhead storefront. I really think we could clean up cities like Detroit, if people were legally allowed to open up something as simple as a 'orange juice stand'. But, no, we don't have the freedom to do anything like those very very basic simple things in the United States.
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Old 08-03-2014, 03:57 PM
 
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And even moreso when I see the many restrictions in the U.S. compared to other countries.

For example, I can drink a beer on a train or a beach throughout Japan, Korea, China, most of Asia, probably much of Europe. Can't do either one in the U.S.

Another is businesses. In Asia, the true entrepreneur spirit is alive and well. You have every kind of small business you can possibly imagine. I go back to the U.S., and there are so many laws, you basically have to get a franchise to get a business, and you'll be zoned to run that business in some high-overhead storefront. I really think we could clean up cities like Detroit, if people were legally allowed to open up something as simple as a 'orange juice stand'. But, no, we don't have the freedom to do anything like those very very basic simple things in the United States.
The problem with Americans is that the American people are the most ignorant in the developed world. We are a surprisingly backwards country, while at the same time thinking we are the best at everything. In the "socialist, communist, redtape and business unfriendly western Europe" I've seen more small business type businesses that I do in the US. We are told that we can't have this or that, fix this or that, or replace this or that, because it would cost too much, hurt business, etc. Guess what? The rest of the developed world, even China, has done all of that and still survive. The US is the only country in the world where the business climate is so fragile, that doing any little thing might disturb the "free market" and cause economic collapse. I'm not buying that pro Wall St. propaganda. The American people are kept in a stranglehold from moving forward by keeping them fat and stupid.
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Old 08-03-2014, 04:36 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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The problem with Americans is that the American people are the most ignorant in the developed world. We are a surprisingly backwards country, while at the same time thinking we are the best at everything. In the "socialist, communist, redtape and business unfriendly western Europe" I've seen more small business type businesses that I do in the US. We are told that we can't have this or that, fix this or that, or replace this or that, because it would cost too much, hurt business, etc. Guess what? The rest of the developed world, even China, has done all of that and still survive. The US is the only country in the world where the business climate is so fragile, that doing any little thing might disturb the "free market" and cause economic collapse. I'm not buying that pro Wall St. propaganda. The American people are kept in a stranglehold from moving forward by keeping them fat and stupid.
Evidence of what you're saying can be seen right here in our own country. The liberal communist city of Berkeley, CA (at least that's what some like to call it) is mostly small businesses owned by local people because it is pro small business. Most businesses in socialist San Francisco are also small businesses. In the US, business friendly really means allowing chains and big box retailers to do what they want. These are the corporations that control American politics and pay a lot of money to tell others with a lot of money to blame those without a lot of money.

Another thing is I have had people from Mexico, Ireland, Australia and a few other places comment to me on how restrictive our country and society is and how the police seem to be able to get away with murder.
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Old 08-03-2014, 09:03 PM
 
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And even moreso when I see the many restrictions in the U.S. compared to other countries.

For example, I can drink a beer on a train or a beach throughout Japan, Korea, China, most of Asia, probably much of Europe. Can't do either one in the U.S.

Another is businesses. In Asia, the true entrepreneur spirit is alive and well. You have every kind of small business you can possibly imagine. I go back to the U.S., and there are so many laws, you basically have to get a franchise to get a business, and you'll be zoned to run that business in some high-overhead storefront. I really think we could clean up cities like Detroit, if people were legally allowed to open up something as simple as a 'orange juice stand'. But, no, we don't have the freedom to do anything like those very very basic simple things in the United States.
That's because of zoning. Americans don't want to see street sellers or their neighbors with a little shop in their home. And I think it's "fine" in a suburban area since the population density is so low people cannot really walk anywhere.

However if you want to see human stupidity, corruption and poor urban planning please come to Miami and visit Brickell ave. A bunch of high rises full of parking lots and expensive restaurants. If you get thirsty good luck finding a store that can sell you a bottle of water.
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Old 08-03-2014, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Somewhere
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Evidence of what you're saying can be seen right here in our own country. The liberal communist city of Berkeley, CA (at least that's what some like to call it) is mostly small businesses owned by local people because it is pro small business. Most businesses in socialist San Francisco are also small businesses. In the US, business friendly really means allowing chains and big box retailers to do what they want. These are the corporations that control American politics and pay a lot of money to tell others with a lot of money to blame those without a lot of money.

Another thing is I have had people from Mexico, Ireland, Australia and a few other places comment to me on how restrictive our country and society is and how the police seem to be able to get away with murder.
Here in FL very few people care about supporting small businesses. It is so bad here that Walmart keeps expanding and doing atrocious things to our traffic patterns and environment. Here in Miami we have the Walmart stores with the highest sales and traffic in the country. Doral Walmart Is The Highest Grossing In The U.S..

How a city full of Latin American immigrants became a car dependent surbuban hell is a mystery to me.
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Old 08-04-2014, 02:52 AM
 
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Umm, isn't it kind of obvious this sort of thread is only going to attract those with a strong opinion and therefore sort of null the value of such a poll? I think its safe to say most people in any country don't really concern themselves with outside views of their country and society and are far too busy living their own lives to get concerned about it.
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Old 08-04-2014, 09:00 AM
 
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Umm, isn't it kind of obvious this sort of thread is only going to attract those with a strong opinion and therefore sort of null the value of such a poll? I think its safe to say most people in any country don't really concern themselves with outside views of their country and society and are far too busy living their own lives to get concerned about it.
Thank you
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Old 08-05-2014, 12:43 AM
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Why do people keep spouting lies that illegal immigrants receive welfare and healthcare?

Assuming our welfare is even generous (which is not compared to most European nations).

You have to be a legal resident for 5 years before you can even apply for social services. Their kids born to the US might receive some help because under current law, anyone born into the US are citizens (which I think it should be amended with requiring at least one parent being a legal resident before automatically giving birth citizenship).

They are required to show proof of their legal status before they can receive a medical or assistance card.

I honestly believe that lie is being spread as a undercover to discriminate against Spanish speaking people due to xenophobia even though they are legal and qualified for those benefits!

My friends are also Hispanics and when they applied for medical assistance, they were still made to feel like they are smooching the system unfairly even though they lived their whole lives in the US legally!

Last edited by FBF; 08-05-2014 at 12:49 AM.. Reason: Benefits
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