Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > World Forums > Americas
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 09-26-2015, 03:33 PM
 
6,940 posts, read 9,678,883 times
Reputation: 3153

Advertisements

I heard there's some sort of dispute. What's going on?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-27-2015, 02:17 PM
 
Location: USA
626 posts, read 1,240,619 times
Reputation: 503
Quote:
Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey View Post
I heard there's some sort of dispute. What's going on?
Border dispute over the Esequibo region. Each country claims it as its own.

A chronology of the Venezuela-Guyana border dispute over the Essequibo - Daily News

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guayana_Esequiba


The territorial dispute between Guyana and Venezuela over the Essequibo region, which represents two thirds of Guyana's territory, has escalated over the last weeks.

Diplomatic tensions between Venezuela and Guyana over the territorial dispute rose in March with the beginning of oil prospecting operations by US oil company ExxonMobil.

Guyana signed an agreement worth USD 200 million with the oil company; a move Venezuela has repeatedly rejected, as it argues that such prospecting operations were being made in Venezuelan waters, as reported by Efe.

Brief chronology of the history of the diplomatic relations between the two countries:

1811: Venezuela's declaration of independence from Spain.

1814: The Anglo–Dutch Treaty was signed. It grants to Great Britain the lands acquired by Dutch settlers, including the west side of the Essequibo River, but according to experts, that document does not defines Guyana's western border.

1831: British Guiana is established.

1899: British Guiana and Venezuela agreed to international arbitration, known as the Paris Arbitration Award, which favored Great Britain and established the sovereignty of Guyana over the Essequibo region. The award also gave Venezuela sovereignty over the mouths of the Orinoco River and a small section of the Guyanese territory.

1962: The government of Venezuela denounces in the United Nations that the Paris Arbitration Award is "null and void;" hence the stage of negotiations between the countries begins.

1966

February 17: Venezuela, Britain, and British Guiana reach the Geneva Agreement, which grants British Guiana sovereignty over the Essequibo region, comprising over 160,000 square kilometers and representing nearly two thirds of Guyana's territory.

May 26: Guyana gains its independence from Great Britain.

October: The "Ankoko crisis" emerges. Venezuela takes over the Ankoko Island, claimed by Guyana, with military and civilian personnel and sets a military base there. Since then, the island is also in dispute.

1969: A secessionist movement, known as the Rupununi Uprising, develops in the southern area of the Essequibo. It sought to split both the Venezuelan and Guyanese territories.
1990: The United Nations appoints Alister McIntyre special representative to mediate in the dispute between Guyana and Venezuela; the UN Good Officer Process begins.

1999: The Venezuelan Constituent Assembly passes an article declaring "null" the decision made in 1899 by the International Court of Arbitration granting the Essequibo region to Guyana.

Between 1999 and 2000, Guyana grants oil drilling concessions to several oil companies in waters disputed with Venezuela.

2000

August – Venezuelan Minister of Foreign Affairs José Vicente Rangel reports that oil companies Century and Exxon were to terminate their oil contracts with Guyana for prospecting in the Essequibo region.

August 24 - Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez affirms that Guyana and Venezuela should "endeavor to peacefully settle the issue" of Essequibo.

2013

August 31 – The brand new President of Venezuela, Nicolás Maduro, visits Guyana to review with his Guyanese counterpart, Donald Ramotar, diplomatic relations of both countries.

October 10 – Venezuelan Navy interdicts a ship of Panamanian flag that was hired by Guyana for oil prospecting. The Guyanese government noted that the action took place in Guyanese waters.

October 15 - Venezuela interdicts a fishing boat of Trinidad and Tobago without authorization to sail in territorial waters of the Venezuelan exclusive economic zone.

2014

April 9 - Jamaican Norman Girvan dies. He was the personal representative of the United Nations Secretary General, Ban Ki-moon entrusted with mediation in the border dispute between Venezuela and Guyana. Girvan was the Secretary General of the Association of Caribbean States in 2000-2004.

2015

March 5 - Exxon Mobil starts oil prospecting in Essequibo waters, with the consent of the Guyanese government. The 10-year project worth USD 200 billion was agreed by Exxon Mobil and the Guyanese government.

April 8 – Venezuela's government urges Esso Exploration and Production Guyana, a subsidiary of Exxon Mobil, to give up its intention to perform "unauthorized" operations in the disputed maritime area.

May 11 – Presidential election is held in Guyana. David Granger is elected president, after defeating the ruling People's Progressive Party, which had governed the former British colony for more than 20 years.

May 20 - Exxon Mobil reports on the finding of a "significant" oil reservoir in the Stabroek block, about 190 kilometers (120 miles) of Guyana's coast.

May 24 – Venezuelan Minister of Foreign Affairs Delcy Rodríguez upholds the "sovereign rights" of Venezuela over the Essequibo and makes an appeal to stop oil prospecting.

May 26 - Nicolás Maduro issues a decree on sea delimitation of the Essequibo waters.

May 30 - Guyana sends a ship of the Guyanese Defense Force to take part in naval and military exercises along with the US Southern Command in Saint Kitts and Nevis.

July 3 – UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon meets with Guyana's President David Granger to address the border dispute in the context of the summit of the Caribbean Community in Barbados. That same day, Ban Ki-moon announces that he is pondering on the possibility of sending a mission of observers to both Guyana and Venezuela to mediate in the dispute.

July 6 - Maduro enacts a law on border matters and a decree that establishes "comprehensive defense zones" for the maritime spaces.

July 7 - Maduro argues that with a view to putting an end to Guyana's "provocation," he would recall his ambassador; he also orders a "thorough review" of bilateral relations.

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-27-2015, 04:08 PM
 
20,524 posts, read 15,901,778 times
Reputation: 5948
This may be another "Falklands" mess with England helping out Guyana. If Venezuela was smart; they'd back off. It's not like they don't have enough problems now with oil prices in the gutter and so on.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-27-2015, 07:20 PM
 
3,804 posts, read 6,172,128 times
Reputation: 3338
Oftentimes nationalism is the last resort of disfunctional leftist regimes. Madura also caused 20000 people to flee to Colombia and has had jets violating Colombian airspace in recent weeks. This is what happens when a country is led by an unqualified guy who gets his orders from a talking parrot channeling the ghost of his mentor.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-28-2015, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
9,847 posts, read 25,243,057 times
Reputation: 3629
Maduro seems to be trying to isolate himself as much as possible. I guess the thinking being to boost some sort of patriotic fervor in the people. Anyway to me the clock is ticking for Maduro. I see him being ousted soon.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-28-2015, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
10,088 posts, read 14,959,511 times
Reputation: 10381
I find his last name quite unfitting. Maduro in Spanish means mature, he's the complete opposite. lol

For those of you that don't understand why AuburnAL said the following:

Quote:
Originally Posted by AuburnAL View Post
This is what happens when a country is led by an unqualified guy who gets his orders from a talking parrot channeling the ghost of his mentor.
You will get it after this video. Its a "revelation" he made in 2013 after Hugo Chavez died.



For some reason the English subtitles are not visible in the imbedded video, but they are in its channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GqXEUYSPAk

I don't agree with what AuburnAL said about nationalism. I think its like everything else, in moderation and under a good guidance some nationalism can help entire societies become better. Once it falls in the wrong hands and is distorted, geared towards destruction, and simply exaggerated is when nationalism becomes detrimental for a society and its neighbors. But, in the end, societies need ideals and an identity in order to function well. That's why even the most leftists countries still have nationalism and use symbols and ideals to maintain the societal cohesion.

Last edited by AntonioR; 09-28-2015 at 02:30 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-04-2015, 12:17 PM
 
8,572 posts, read 8,538,918 times
Reputation: 4684
Quote:
Originally Posted by AuburnAL View Post
Oftentimes nationalism is the last resort of disfunctional leftist regimes. Madura also caused 20000 people to flee to Colombia and has had jets violating Colombian airspace in recent weeks. This is what happens when a country is led by an unqualified guy who gets his orders from a talking parrot channeling the ghost of his mentor.

In 1962 there was a government in British Guiana (still a self governing British colony) which was perceived to be Marxist. A then right wing regime in Venezuela, instigated by a paranoid US gov't, which feared another "Cuba", reactivated the claim, with the bogus story that the 1899 agreement was null and void because the British bribed a Russian arbitrator.

FACT. Spain NEVER occupied what is now Essequibo in Guyana.

FACT. Britain was seen as losing out in 1899, as it was interested in the Orinoco basin, with its potential oil reserves. It ended up with what were considered valueless lands in what is now Essequibo.

FACT. There is no evidence that Venezuela was unhappy with what it was awarded in 1899.


Maduro, sensing that a democratic election will see the end of his dictatorship, is reactivating various border claims. He is playing his usual paranoia of imperialism by giving Venezuelans the impressions that its the USA/UK and not Guyanese themselves, which object to Venezuela's claims to Essequibo.

I doubt that average Venezuelans have the slightest interest in absorbing the 130,000 English (and English creole speaking) cultural alien populations which live in the areas that Maduro claims. They would rather that he ensures that basic household items and food becomes available.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-04-2015, 12:20 PM
 
8,572 posts, read 8,538,918 times
Reputation: 4684
Quote:
Originally Posted by AuburnAL View Post
Oftentimes nationalism is the last resort of disfunctional leftist regimes. Madura also caused 20000 people to flee to Colombia and has had jets violating Colombian airspace in recent weeks. This is what happens when a country is led by an unqualified guy who gets his orders from a talking parrot channeling the ghost of his mentor.

Right wing regimes can be equally useless. It was a right wing regime which reactivated the claim, even as the then British Guiana was moving towards independence.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > World Forums > Americas

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top