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Old 09-06-2016, 06:09 AM
 
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right before the mexican revolution.... most mexicans spoke indigenous languages and the spanish language was rather a language for the criollo or spanish upper/middle classes sort of like it happened in the Philippines.

after the mexican revolution the indigenous languages plummeted due to the oppression of the government and mexico became a "hispanic country", apparently one of the great ideas of the revolution was to europeanize the country so that it could prosper. you can clearly see 100 years later how well shoving the spanish language down everyone's throats has worked!!!

25% of the population in mexico in 1910 spoke nahuatl, that is without counting the other many languages people spoke!!!

Los indígenas en la Independencia y la Revolución mexicana
indigenous languages used to be common in mexico, mostly outside of the main european settled cities occupied by the middle class of spanish descendants.

Your history is all wrong. Most Mexicans spoke Spanish before the revolution. I don't now what story books the reverend is using, but was probably written by Carlos Castañeda.
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Old 09-06-2016, 07:50 AM
 
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The OP is not interested in facts. The OP is interested in shoving the same ol' theories down people throats on here all the time.



LOL I think that is the OP's problem. While I understand people being proud of their nationality. The OP (Irene) goes overboard on here trying to prove how different she is to Mexicans, to the point where she seems desperate.
Yeah, she tries to 'sound intellectual' to hide her biases and racism...but the crazy comes out sooner or later.
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Old 09-06-2016, 11:07 AM
 
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Mexico isn't like the Phillipines, because unlike in the Phillipines in Mexico most people do have Spanish heritage in their blood too. Filipinos are text book colonized people (a group of people imposed a culture that has nothing to do with them) and probably explains why it was so easy for them to almost forget the Spanish language (although not the Catholic faith and other Spanish influences).
Filipinos would probably speaking Spanish too instead of English alongside the native Philippines dialects if the Americans didn't come and imposed English as lingua franca on the islands.
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Old 09-06-2016, 01:19 PM
 
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"Re-learn"? Some Mexicans are direct descendants of the Spaniards who colonized the area, with no Native admixture. They're already speaking their ancestral language. Others are from families that have minimal Native heritage, and it dates back so far, they don't even know what percentage Native they are.

Last, but by no means least, is the fact that the Indigenous languages are some of the most difficult in the world to learn. Some can't even be translated into a European language in a comprehensible manner. They're predicated upon a radically different world view from European languages. This is especially true of anything in the Uto-Aztecan language family. I would imagine that Mayan would be in the same class.

I know people who grew up with Native language spoken in the home (in New Mexico). They say they can understand it, but they can't speak it. If it's that difficult for people who grew up with it, imagine how difficult it would be for people who don't have that advantage. Though there are some Native people in the US who have managed to learn to speak a bit from learning it in tribal language classes. I don't know how much fluency they have, and how extensive their vocab development is.
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Old 09-07-2016, 06:28 AM
 
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LOL Irene, you really are desperate.
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Old 09-07-2016, 07:27 AM
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LOL Irene, you really are desperate.
Desperate for a Mexican burrito more like it. LoL
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Old 09-07-2016, 10:36 AM
 
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LoL why don't you just make a bunch of clones of yourself and then everything would be perfect, happily ever after puppies and rainbows and everyone would hold hands and sing kumbaya!
Xaxaxa. "The Girls from Colombia", starring Gregory Peck as Irene.
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Old 09-07-2016, 11:05 AM
 
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Yup your the bad one insulting people on here. You're making yourself look bad, it's not me. For the record I am not Honduran, try again loser.


I seriously think you need counselling, Maybe you need some tough love of your own.
WTF? psycopathic and to top it off, racist AF.

Mexicans are racist and in denial, but she uses 'Mayan' and 'indigenous' as insults. What a mess....
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Old 09-07-2016, 11:51 AM
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You'll come back when there's more treats.
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Old 09-07-2016, 12:12 PM
 
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I don't believe it.
Lol, she's full of s**t.

I don't have time to be creating multiple accounts...I'm a housewife, have a job, work out, etc...its a miracle I even find time to be on here.
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