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Old 10-29-2017, 05:58 PM
 
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I know... thats why I said on AVERAGE.



In my experience, most Cubans are either white or black. While Dominicans and Puerto Ricans are more mixed. Dominicans tend be a more black-leaning Mulatto, while Puerto Ricans tend to be a more white-leaning Mulatto/Triracial. But all in all, all 3 countries have large numbers of Blacks, Whites, and Multiracials.
Puerto Rico is not a country. I’m puerto Rican and cant stand when people say I am going to another country when I say I am going to Puerto Rico.
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Old 11-20-2017, 12:47 PM
 
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Some what hysterical reaction. The Caribs populated small islands like Dominica. There is no way that they would have been anything other than an irritant to Tainos in Puerto Rico, and I very much doubt that they had reached as far as Hispaniola.

And in fact there are even conflicting theories as to how differentiated the Arawaks were from the Caribs.
they in fact did, actually at the time Columbus arrived to hispaniola the 2 tribes were at war on the eastern parts of the island. (the caribs never settled Hispaniola for long periods of time.)
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Old 11-20-2017, 12:49 PM
 
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False. Argentina and Uruguay are predominately white. Brazil and Colombia have significant Black populations, as do parts of Central America. The racial demographics of Latin America vary from country to country, but each Latin American country has people of all races, including recent immigrants.

Many Dominicans are a lot Blacker than 30% West Africa. You'll find some very Black Dominicans if you actually go to the Dominican Republic. Ditto Cuba.
You will find dominicans that are 100% black, thats means nothing, we are talking about the average dominican, not some random dude.
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Old 11-20-2017, 09:02 PM
 
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Old 12-03-2017, 02:53 AM
 
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The only exception are Cuban-Americans. Even though a rare Cuban in the U.S is black, they are the only ones, in my experience, who actually say that they are black and have an Afro-descent identity.
Racial identity is social construct.

There is a greater black identity in Cuba because, unlike the DR and PR, Cubans are descended from a "new" population. Large numbers of enslaved peoples were brought in from Africa in the 19th C and large numbers of Spanish immigrants immigrated during the 19th and early 20th C. So we have two populations with different cultural heritages existing side by side.

In the late 50s only about 20% of the population was mixed. That number has now grown and so most Cubans are now mixed, given the migration of a large % of the white population, and increased miscegenation amongst those who remained.

Identity in the DR is about the "we're not Haitian" thing, so their identity to blackness and Africa will be different. This is why Dominicans will pretend that those who are unambiguously "black" are either Haitian or Cocolo.

The DR was the "blackest" country in Latin America since large numbers of whites fled Haitian rule. It still is the Latin nation with the highest % of the population with African ancestry. Higher even than Brazil and Cuba!

I am amused by those who scream that Puerto Ricans are "Spaniards" when over 30% of their ancestral DNA is not from Spain and most Puerto Ricans don't look like anyone from Spain.

It is always interesting that a person with 20% non African ancestry is considered "mixed" by some of these Latin Americans whereas a person with 35% non European ancestry is considered "Spanish".

Puerto Ricans are a multi ethnic, multi cultural group and to say otherwise is to insult the African and Taino influences that are an essential part of what makes the culture of that island Puerto Rican.
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Old 12-03-2017, 02:55 AM
 
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they in fact did, actually at the time Columbus arrived to hispaniola the 2 tribes were at war on the eastern parts of the island. (the caribs never settled Hispaniola for long periods of time.)
The Carib invasion of PR was only just beginning when Columbus arrived. Given the huge size of PR and the vast population, compared to Dominica, the main base of the Caribs, it is completely nonsensical to claim that the Tainos faced extinction at the hands of the Caribs.
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Old 12-03-2017, 02:57 AM
 
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You will find dominicans that are 100% black, thats means nothing, we are talking about the average dominican, not some random dude.
There is no such thing as an "average" Dominican. FACT. The DR has the largest % of population with African ancestry in Latin America. You can quibble as to whether they are black or mixed but what we know is that they aren't white.

To get higher % of populations with African ancestry one will have to go to the non Hispanic Caribbean. In fact a higher % of the population of the DR is African descent than is true for Trinidad!
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Old 12-04-2017, 01:37 PM
 
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There is no such thing as an "average" Dominican. FACT. The DR has the largest % of population with African ancestry in Latin America. You can quibble as to whether they are black or mixed but what we know is that they aren't white.

To get higher % of populations with African ancestry one will have to go to the non Hispanic Caribbean. In fact a higher % of the population of the DR is African descent than is true for Trinidad!
you truly dont understand, 80% of Dominicans have some African heritage but that doesn't make them of African decent as the one drop rule is not a thing in DR. Some of that 80% could be just 20% African. and what you just said is just not true, the English Caribbean has a way larger percent of unmixed blacks and low mulatto percentage. so no, it is not they way you think it is.
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Old 12-04-2017, 01:46 PM
 
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There is no such thing as an "average" Dominican. FACT. The DR has the largest % of population with African ancestry in Latin America. You can quibble as to whether they are black or mixed but what we know is that they aren't white.

To get higher % of populations with African ancestry one will have to go to the non Hispanic Caribbean. In fact a higher % of the population of the DR is African descent than is true for Trinidad!
You are the kind of guy that think that if one of a person great-grand parent is black then they are black. That the most racist invention of them all " the american one drop rule". and it is funny how african americans love to enforce that. its just an scheme for white purity, EVERYONE "TAINTED" BY BLACK BLOOD IS BLACK. so white race remains pure.
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Old 12-13-2017, 12:01 PM
 
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they in fact did, actually at the time Columbus arrived to hispaniola the 2 tribes were at war on the eastern parts of the island. (the caribs never settled Hispaniola for long periods of time.)
There is no account if any inter tribal warfare in Hispaniola when he arrived. What he found was several Taino kingdoms scattered around various parts of the island and the environment was peaceful until the savage Spanish disrupted it.

It was the Spanish who attacked and destroyed the Tainos of Hispaniola. NOT the Caribs. PR was a Taino island with a large population. Explain to me how Caribs from St Croix could sail all the way to Hispaniola to pose a threat to the various Taino kingdoms?

It is to be noted that the Tainos of Hispaniola were well fed and had ample access to fresh water, not something that marauders, having sailed hundreds of miles from St Croix, would have!
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