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Absolutely not. People are better educated and have a higher standard of living, generally speaking. The infrastructures certainly weren’t better when the British were in control.
Also, which islands have you visited or lived in? The islands differ do specify.
The majority are not looking to be under the British.
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It seems that independent Caribbean nations such as Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago, to name a few, are high in crime and have terrible infrastructure.
Would you say the days of British colonial rule were better?
Does the majority of the population of those countries prefer the countries stay independent, or go back to the United Kingdom?
Regarding Trinidad and Tobago the adult literacy rate increased from 94.97 % in 1980 to 98.97 % in 2015 growing at an average annual rate of 1.04 %. Adult literacy rate is the percentage of people ages 15 and above who can, with understanding, read and write a short, simple statement on their everyday life.
If you meet someone from Trinidad and Tobago who seems dumb ..... watch out as they are likely just playing dumb for a reason.
Infastructure looked pretty descent last time I was there... unless you are super poor. But even if you are super poor in Trindad and Tobago you can still read and write.
The crime rate is high likely because due to the high literacy rate we have smarter and more productive criminals ... just joking. The note worthy crimes are often drug related. Not too many stats related to the rate of people stealing mangos from someone else's tree.
So on behalf of my family ... no one was doing any better under British Rule. Though a good number of people left the Island to study or work ... but then came back to build up family property or to create business.
I think it would be difficult to tell. Remember, Britain itself was in a very sorry state during the 40's after the war and rationing continued well into the 50's. There was some rest bite in the 60's but then came the downturn in the 70's. Britain only managed to completely pay off its second world war debt to the US on 31st December 2006.
I'm sure that had any of the Caribbean islands remained British throughout the 90's and early 2000's, they too would've reaped the rewards. The Cayman Islands are an example of how well a British Overseas territory did, especially during the aforementioned time period.
Is neocolonialism better than colonialism? Interesting question. Answer is... it depends. Some islands have done better than others.
The next question is what is independence and how many Caribbean islands truly have it? That is if one truly wants to look at things the way they actually are and not from a superficial level. Some islands have done better with what passes for independence than others.
Also remember that the colonial power (Britain) is quite different from the neocolonial one.
Speaking specifically of my island, Jamaica's economic and security (crime) indicators are clearly worse than the colonial era just before independence. And those pre independence years weren't great. However, the years after independence were better than the years prior to independence. Then something happened. Every island has a different story.
The depth of feeling is particularly astonishing as generations of Jamaican leaders have portrayed the British as oppressors who subjected the Caribbean to slavery.
The Queen is still Jamaica’s head of state. Under the headline ‘Give Us The Queen!’, the Gleaner – Jamaica’s biggest newspaper – said its poll showed how much people had become ‘disillusioned’ with the violent and corrupt political gangs running the island.
No wonder when Queen Elizabeth visited Jamaica in 2002, the people seem to really cherish her.
In 2016 Jamaicans seem to wish Queen Elizabeth the best of wishes on her birthday.
Meh...that’s a sensational article. Most Jamaicans are far too proud to accept being British territory again...
There are some people that love to quote the findings of that poll...I see it all over the place...people who really know whats going on understand that the poll was more of a referendum on the failure of the Jamaican political system...people who understand that system a little deeper also understand that the system is not that of a truly independent nation
There are some people that love to quote the findings of that poll...I see it all over the place...people who really know whats going on understand that the poll was more of a referendum on the failure of the Jamaican political system...people who understand that system a little deeper also understand that the system is not that of a truly independent nation
Precisely. And to add to your comments regarding true independence, it can be argued that, not only Caribbean nations, but the majority of the developing world isn’t truly independent.
Precisely. And to add to your comments regarding true independence, it can be argued that, not only Caribbean nations, but the majority of the developing world isn’t truly independent.
That's such a victimised statement in an attempt excuse the poor performance of leaders in the developing world and the lack of public interest in politics. Let's be real if South Korea can rise from poverty in 2 generations so can any country, until that blame culture and victimisation changes you will continue to be part of the developing world.
In a globalised world all countries are dependant to various degrees on one another, even developed countries, look at the UK and its strife to separate from the EU and its bureaucracy and it was dependant on the US and sacrifices of people in the commonwealth to keep the Nazis at bay and rebuild the country after the devastation of war.
Time and tide wait for no man. It's time to enter the fold of reconciliation, otherwise the Irish will be at British throats still and the British at German and the Koreans at Japanese and that is simply no longer the case.
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... just joking. The note worthy crimes are often drug related. Not too many stats related to the rate of people stealing mangos from someone else's tree.
