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Old 05-28-2018, 12:08 PM
 
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Is Haiti part of Latin America? I don't consider them to be but there are those who vociferously claim that they are.

I will consider Aruba and Curacao as they are culturally quite integrated into Colombia and Venezuela, despite being part of the EU, given that they are "nations" within the Kingdom of the Netherlands.
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Old 05-28-2018, 12:11 PM
 
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Marina Silva and Joaquim Barbosa in Brazil.

Barbosa has now retired. We will see what happens to Silva given that the alternates don't seem to be choir boys.

A nation with millions of visibly Afro descendant people, the second largest behind the USA (I don't believe in counting the minimally Afro descendant mainly mestizo part of the Pardo population). The second highest % in Latin America behind the DR, which is an overwhelmingly Afro descendant nation.

Surely there should be no shortage of Afro descendant politicians with a national profile. After all isnt the USA this "wickedly racist" place where blacks are oppressed and Brazil being this paradise, the best place for blacks on the planet?
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Old 05-28-2018, 12:18 PM
 
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Several cities in Puerto Rico have black mayors. I'm sure the same can be said for several cities in Dominican Republic and Cuba. Those are the 3 Spanish countries with highest percentages of African descendants.
Cuba is not a democracy so that doesn't count. Who is selected is who the Castro dominated regime wants and they like to place tokens in positions of "power".

PR loves to elect governors who are white or very close to this. Curious to hear about major visibly Afro descendant politicians with territorial wide profiles. Or governing major municipalities.
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Old 05-28-2018, 12:25 PM
 
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Is Haiti part of Latin America? I don't consider them to be but there are those who vociferously claim that they are.

I will consider Aruba and Curacao as they are culturally quite integrated into Colombia and Venezuela, despite being part of the EU, given that they are "nations" within the Kingdom of the Netherlands.

I personally don't consider them Latino for the simple fact that I have lived around Haitians and most Haitians I know would reject the term Latino and I respect that.

As far as Curacao I think you have a point they are a lot like Venezuelans.
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Old 05-28-2018, 12:51 PM
 
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I personally don't consider them Latino for the simple fact that I have lived around Haitians and most Haitians I know would reject the term Latino and I respect that.

As far as Curacao I think you have a point they are a lot like Venezuelans.
Haitians identify as "Haitians". For convenience they have a loose connection to other non Hispanic Caribbean black immigrants when they arrive in the USA. Largely for political purposes and their US born off spring might intermarry with these. But even then there is definite distancing and this feeling is mutual.

If they identify with any others it will be with those from the French Antilles and Dominica and St Lucia. And even in those cases Haitians still maintain a sense that these peoples are a little different.


I think that most Haitians would find any assertion that they are Latin Americans to be quite ludicrous given the attitudes of their Latin neighbors just across the border.
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Old 05-29-2018, 02:59 PM
 
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Haitans are not Latino, they are a unique culture, with some french influence but not enough to be considered Latino.
they are not even full Catholics. They are hybrid.
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