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Old 06-13-2018, 02:42 PM
 
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When this starts to happen then they need to do what other countries do.... attract immigrants from other places to come fill the gap.
Also regarding the growth rate.
Why again do you need the population to grow?
Why can't it just sustain?
Who wants to be tripping over kids everywhere lol !
the issue is that we gonna run out of young people. We gonna become a planet of old farts.
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Old 06-13-2018, 06:37 PM
 
Location: NYntarctica
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Argentina (2.3), Bolivia (2.9), Paraguay (2.5), Uruguay (2.0), Peru (2.4), Ecuador (2.5), Venezuela (2.3) all have healthy fertility rates. Not too high, not too low. It's mostly Brazil and Colombia that are struggling, which is kinda strange since they're not particularly wealthy
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Old 06-13-2018, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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the issue is that we gonna run out of young people. We gonna become a planet of old farts.
You mean somebody is going to turn down the volume on the subwoofers at 3 am?
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Old 06-15-2018, 06:10 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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It's mostly Brazil and Colombia that are struggling, which is kinda strange since they're not particularly wealthy
The young Venezuelan population will supplant that. I'm in Colombia right now and there are Venezuelans everywhere even in the micro cities.
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Old 06-15-2018, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Canada
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The young Venezuelan population will supplant that. I'm in Colombia right now and there are Venezuelans everywhere even in the micro cities.

Did you go to vote?
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Old 06-15-2018, 10:43 AM
 
Location: East Helena, MT
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Population dynamics is very important, it predicts the future of a people, and their culture. So that I don't offend anyone, I am going to use a made up example.


Atlantis is a country that is very prosperous. They have an established culture, they love art, theater, and leisure. They have had a stable population, but in the last 50 years their birth rate declined as less couples wanted children, so that they could concentrate on their pursuits. The government decides to bring in a large amount of refugees so that manual labor, and farming, stays consistent.


Hades is a country torn by civil war. They have an extremely high birthrate. Most don't live past the age of 20. They spend their life in constant struggle. Little food, no political stability, groups pitted against each other.


Atlantis brings in 10% of their population from Hades. Unfortunately, these refugees refuse to assimilate. They have deep held resentment of the other groups from their country. They don't participate in art or theater. As their population grows, they displace the native Atlanteans. Their birthrate doesn't slow down just because they are in a better place. Within 100 years, they have a majority. They begin to change the laws. The old culture of Atlantis no longer exists.


Notice I don't bring race into this at all. Race doesn't matter. A country must be wary of bringing in too many people at once who won't have time to assimilate. You run the risk of loosing your culture.


This has happened countless times in the history of the world. Right now, the Russian government is offering money and government assistance to their citizens to have children. They are trying to prevent this very thing from happening.
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Old 06-16-2018, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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So many Mexicans and Central Americans want to come to the United States. Could it be there are more people than jobs in those countries?
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Old 06-16-2018, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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Guatemala is now majority evangelical. Which is even worse. I think Guatemala is the most evangelical country in Latin America.
Canada needs Guatemalans.
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Old 06-16-2018, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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Most European countries are only half of that, USA and China 1.25. They seem to be doing alright, with rising populations.

Don't worry about Africa, they're going to do just fine with birth rates up in the 4s. Very promising, according to your measure.
The Philippines has a high birth rate.
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Old 06-16-2018, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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I think more needs to be done to support families being able to have children rather then trying to take babies from women and families that have them without being able to support them from other places.

Certain women or people should not be seen as baby factories for other people. The idea that these kids are not wanted is not really alk that true. It is more likely the parents are having problems supporting them and can be pressured in to giving them away.

This is one reason I would be not be that willing to adopt as it seems like it is more of a business then anything else and I am not willing to participate in the selling of children when we should be trying to help the families not sell their children.

Governments dont create laws to support families.
In many places you need to choose between being closer to poverty or having children.

Canada is an excellent example of this.
Paying for child care is very expensive, but single income families are not that common because it is too risky to depend on 1 person to make enough money to support the entire family.

What the government offers to support women and families to have more kids is a joke. So they end up having less kids and pets lol.
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