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Old 06-27-2018, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I disagree. There was no need to demolish any of those structures. When the Turks conquered the Byzantine Empire, they left most of them unharmed and decided to use them instead.

It's a real shame that Tenochtitlan is no longer around as it would have been quite something.
I see your point, Byzantium still exist in modern day Istanbul and the forbidden city still stands in the heart of Beijing.

It would have been fantastic to see the sacred center of Tenochtitlan if it were preserved in Mexico City. But after reading dozens of books on the history, I understand why those temples were demolished.. every temple and ballcourt was stained by blood of victims.
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Old 06-30-2018, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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All cultures have had sacrifice, part of the scapegoating process whose purpose is to focus and relieve tension on a single point instead of allowing it to spread throughout the group. The Aztec example took it to an extreme, perhaps because there was unprecedented dissent within their society at the time.

For those of you who are philosophically or anthropologically minded, there are two things to examine:
Giambattista Vico's New Science and Rene Girard's Violence and the Sacred.
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Old 07-02-2018, 06:23 PM
 
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I see your point, Byzantium still exist in modern day Istanbul and the forbidden city still stands in the heart of Beijing.

It would have been fantastic to see the sacred center of Tenochtitlan if it were preserved in Mexico City. But after reading dozens of books on the history, I understand why those temples were demolished.. every temple and ballcourt was stained by blood of victims.
I was under the impression that the structures were demolished so that the materials could by the Spanish to build new edifices.
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Old 07-02-2018, 11:44 PM
 
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I see your point, Byzantium still exist in modern day Istanbul and the forbidden city still stands in the heart of Beijing.

It would have been fantastic to see the sacred center of Tenochtitlan if it were preserved in Mexico City. But after reading dozens of books on the history, I understand why those temples were demolished..



every temple and ballcourt was stained by blood of victims.

if that is the premise, then st peter basilica should not be there, who know how many people where torture in her dungeons, they are still there. the vikings did it the Romans did remember the coliseum.
the Egyptians did it. pretty much all past civilization did it. the USA did it, the USA did it to the native people they were almost exterminated women, babies, and man. it didn't matter. no culture have higher moral grounds over the Aztec or prehispanic civilizations.
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Old 07-03-2018, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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it didn't matter. no culture have higher moral grounds over the Aztec or prehispanic civilizations.
Every culture does many of the same things in different forms.

As you mentioned the white U.S. culture decimated the Native American population, but this was done for a totally different reason than Aztec sacrifice. White people marginalized the Indians as part of conquering the land - they wanted the resources. Aztecs on the other hand did sacrifice because they thought it would alleviate internal tension. Both resulted in bloodhed but for totally different reasons.
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Old 07-04-2018, 09:45 PM
 
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maybe the Spaniards were right to kill them all.
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Old 07-05-2018, 09:03 AM
 
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maybe the Spaniards were right to kill them all.
uh. NO.
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Old 07-06-2018, 11:01 PM
 
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uh. NO.

uh yeah. Those aztecs were pretty brutal.
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Old 07-07-2018, 02:23 PM
 
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uh yeah. Those aztecs were pretty brutal.
As were the Spaniards, the White American frontiersman, and countless other groups of people throughout history.
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Old 07-08-2018, 03:41 PM
 
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