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Old 05-22-2019, 12:46 PM
 
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The Southern Cone isn't the most properous region in Latin America. Southeast Brazil, or Mexico, has higher GDP and population.
São Paulo alone has a higher GDP than Argentina.

The two most important and rich cities aren't in the region, São Paulo and Mexico.
The two higher GDP per capita aren't either, Brasília and Monterrey.
The first city that appears is Buenos Aires, and then again the fourth, Rio de Janeiro, isn't there.

Chile only surpassed Rio de Janeiro or Minas Gerais, one of them alone, recently.

The region is less inequal due factors pointed here, like less slavory in its history, but more prosperous? No way. In Latin America no one would have this perception, and statistics doesn't demostrate it.
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Old 05-23-2019, 04:37 AM
 
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The Southern Cone isn't the most properous region in Latin America. Southeast Brazil, or Mexico, has higher GDP and population.
São Paulo alone has a higher GDP than Argentina.

The two most important and rich cities aren't in the region, São Paulo and Mexico.
The two higher GDP per capita aren't either, Brasília and Monterrey.
The first city that appears is Buenos Aires, and then again the fourth, Rio de Janeiro, isn't there.

Chile only surpassed Rio de Janeiro or Minas Gerais, one of them alone, recently.

The region is less inequal due factors pointed here, like less slavory in its history, but more prosperous? No way. In Latin America no one would have this perception, and statistics doesn't demostrate it.
Then why brazil and Mexico are not considered as high income countries like Argentina or Chile ??????

you can't compare brazil to a Hispanic country (Independenly). If you compare it you have to do it with the whole (hispanoamerica as a single nation). Former Portuguese colonies unified in to one single nation , whereas former Spanish colonies split into different nations
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Old 05-23-2019, 07:01 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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If you compare it you have to do it with the whole (hispanoamerica as a single nation).
What an over-exaggerated notion. So Mexico and Argentina and everything in between has to be one nation to be compared? Please! Brazil only has 35% more population than Mexico its more or less the same difference as Germany and Japan or Egypt and South Africa. Also Brazil for such a large country is relatively homogeneous and insular, its cultural regions are large (1.Amazonico/Nordestino, 2.Bahiano/Carioca, 3.Caipira/Gaucho), which doesn't allow for the variation found in Spanish-speaking America.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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(Mmm)
India, South East Asia, Africa and Latin America as a whole are still wayyy behind countries that had a strong European influence
There are plenty of examples around the world of functioning countries with non-Europeans running the government, and there are plenty of examples of non-functioning countries with European influence in the government.

Your examples are not accurate either. China is going strong, a very well-oiled machine; while Argentina is in the dumps. If Argentina is an example of your "well-functioning European country" you picked the wrong example.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:39 AM
 
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Then why brazil and Mexico are not considered as high income countries like Argentina or Chile ??????

As I said at least twice on this very thread, Mexico income is now higher than Argentina's, so, if Argentina is considered a high income country by any institution, Mexico should be too, with bigger reason.


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Old 05-23-2019, 10:47 AM
 
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1) no genetic study would show specific percentage of any race ???? . (That's the whole point!!!!!!!) Of course it will Harry !!.. have you heard of things such my heritage dna.com and stuff ???. in the USA is very popular
that's not what I meant. I said that any study that showed the genetic composition of any LatAm country in terms of "X% pure Whites, Y% Blacks, Z% Natives" would be fake, because the population in LatAm is not White, or Black, or Native or Asian, but overwhelmingly mixed.

That's different to the genetic admixture of each individual in every country.

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2) most countries in Latin America do not enumerate their population by race or ethnicity. (Some do like brazil but not until recently). (How you gonna come up with percentages about race when their priorities is just to enumerate the population ???)
The Census survey has many questions about several subjects such as fertility, migration, education etc. They can also ask people about race self perception, and they do.

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People from the southern cone have a lighter skin in general because of the more temperate climate
skin tone is not defined as much by the climate of the area you're living in, but by genetics. African Americans in northern USA don't become lighter than the ones in Southern USA. So, for one, Chile is just as dark as other countries because of its Mestizo genetics.
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Old 05-23-2019, 12:38 PM
 
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There are plenty of examples around the world of functioning countries with non-Europeans running the government, and there are plenty of examples of non-functioning countries with European influence in the government.

Your examples are not accurate either. China is going strong, a very well-oiled machine; while Argentina is in the dumps. If Argentina is an example of your "well-functioning European country" you picked the wrong example.
GIVE one example, and please dont come up with those tiny tropical countries in south east asia or the middle east , such singapore (full of western expats), hong kong (full of western expats), UAE (full of western expatcs). Macao,, etc etc... China still has a lot to do with its large poor citizens

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Old 05-23-2019, 12:47 PM
 
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As I said at least twice on this very thread, Mexico income is now higher than Argentina's, so, if Argentina is considered a high income country by any institution, Mexico should be too, with bigger reason.

according to the world bank as of 2019 Mexico and Brazil certainly are still not considered as (high income countries). facts!!!
Chile, Uruguay since 2012
Argentina since 2014
Panama since 2017

in not impressed by Uruguay or Panama because their size. but i will be watching Mexico and Brasil.
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Old 05-23-2019, 12:54 PM
 
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that's not what I meant. I said that any study that showed the genetic composition of any LatAm country in terms of "X% pure Whites, Y% Blacks, Z% Natives" would be fake, because the population in LatAm is not White, or Black, or Native or Asian, but overwhelmingly mixed.

That's different to the genetic admixture of each individual in every country.

The Census survey has many questions about several subjects such as fertility, migration, education etc. They can also ask people about race self perception, and they do.

skin tone is not defined as much by the climate of the area you're living in, but by genetics. African Americans in northern USA don't become lighter than the ones in Southern USA. So, for one, Chile is just as dark as other countries because of its Mestizo genetics.
because theyre blacks harry.... mestizo, (amerindian/european) have light skin naturally. they can get dark if theyre exposed to the sun.
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Old 05-23-2019, 04:09 PM
 
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Argentina qualified as a high income country in 2017 but this year it will probably lose such category, Argentina Peso has devalued a lot this year, which means its GNI per capita is falling.
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