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Old 06-11-2019, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Fort Collins, USA
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I've lived in no less than three continents, over 60 (maybe 80?) countries visited and they still don't listen. You are absolutely right, untasted
Impressive - somebody on the internet claims to have lived in 80 countries (among other boasts). Perhaps you could try making a coherent argument rather than constantly bragging about yourself and insulting other posters. Maybe then somebody would listen.
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Old 06-12-2019, 05:26 AM
 
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where are u living atm?
Spain/UK
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Old 06-12-2019, 05:33 AM
 
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Impressive - somebody on the internet claims to have lived in 80 countries (among other boasts). Perhaps you could try making a coherent argument rather than constantly bragging about yourself and insulting other posters. Maybe then somebody would listen.
no, I claimed to have visited 60-80 countries.... nothing unusual about that. I've lived in 10 countries or so maybe 8. You must take your ADHD into consideration and try to read *correctly* the posts.

Btw, I've done nothing than to argue coherently on this forum. xeric, now be quet
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Old 06-12-2019, 05:36 AM
 
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Spain/UK
Nice! l like spain! one of the nicest towns is morella I think I used to co-own a finca near cambrils where in the uk do you live? I lived in exeter, mostly. I did some 737 base training in the midlands
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Old 06-12-2019, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Fort Collins, USA
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no, I claimed to have visited 60-80 countries.... nothing unusual about that. I've lived in 10 countries or so maybe 8. You must take your ADHD into consideration and try to read *correctly* the posts.

Btw, I've done nothing than to argue coherently on this forum. xeric, now be quet
More insults. Impressive.
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Old 06-12-2019, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Fort Collins, USA
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There is one big problem with the contention of the original post and it is Argentina. That country has a long history of economic and political instability. If you take Argentina out of the equation then the title of the thread makes more sense - but then you wouldn’t have much of a southern cone. Really, a more useful discussion would be why Chile has been so successful in the last 10 years. Perhaps other countries could then follow a similar model.

Automatically lumping Argentina in with every success that Chile has had and using common statistical indicators to argue that Argentina is doing well while qualifying the higher numbers (from the same sources) of other countries such as Panama, Mexico, and various Caribbean nations to argue that they are not accurate is not a particularly convincing argument.

I’m not sure why some posters have such a need to equate success and superiority with white skin and pure European heritage. In any case (as has been repeatedly pointed out in this thread) Chile is a mestizo country.
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:39 AM
 
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Interdasting. BBC just published an article today, on how Blacks have been erased in the historiography of Chile and Argentina, and how their contribution to the Independence and development of these countries has been denied for centuries:
"Aquí no hay negros": cómo se borró de la historia de Argentina y Chile el aporte de los esclavos y los afrodescendientes


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1) HDI is certainly the most influential one
no it isn't, it's just the one that covers more countries, but it's not very accurate. As I said, it uses a lot of oudated data and estimations, because there isn't updated stats about many things for several countries of the World

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2) I already clarify that Venezuela and Russia (as of now ) are no longer part of the (high income countries group according the the (update ) .
you are now talking about GNI per capita, not HDI. As we said recently, Mexico, Panama and Costa Rica have higher GNI per capita now than Argentina. And Panama, higher GNI per capita than any other country.


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3) you're the one selecting ( randomly whatever period of history) that suits your arguments. (I specifically wrote) "post European colonialism!!. And you brought up the Mayans , egiptians topics to the arguments .
I'm not selecting periods of history. I said that, in order to prove some kind of racial or geographical determinism, the hypothesis should be true for most periods of human history, and not just for a century or a few decades. You are just too dumb to understand.

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4) now all of a sudden you include (Chile) among the less white but wealthier ????. You were talking s#"'ts about Chile a few seconds ago . What happened ?
How "all of sudden"? One of my main points all over this thread has been that Chile is a Mestizo majority country, unlike Argentina or Uruguay, which disproves the argument of the Southern Cone being an entity, and an entity of White-majority countries. I haven't said anything negative about Chile's development, which is the only country in the "Southern Cone" that ranks consistently high in almost all kinds of social and development indices, unlike Uruguay and, especially, Argentina. The only negative thing I said about Chile was that it's not that socially progressive or lgbt friendly as you think.

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5) one country (Chile ) doesn't make a correlation? ...
no.

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Uruguay , Argentina ( 2 southern cone countries ) for the longest time were the best countries in Latin America !!.
no. For several periods of LatAm history, countries like Venezuela, Mexico and even Brazil were the wealthiest ones in the region.
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:47 AM
 
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There is one big problem with the contention of the original post and it is Argentina. That country has a long history of economic and political instability. If you take Argentina out of the equation then the title of the thread makes more sense - but then you wouldn’t have much of a southern cone. Really, a more useful discussion would be why Chile has been so successful in the last 10 years. Perhaps other countries could then follow a similar model.

Automatically lumping Argentina in with every success that Chile has had and using common statistical indicators to argue that Argentina is doing well while qualifying the higher numbers (from the same sources) of other countries such as Panama, Mexico, and various Caribbean nations to argue that they are not accurate is not a particularly convincing argument.

I’m not sure why some posters have such a need to equate success and superiority with white skin and pure European heritage. In any case (as has been repeatedly pointed out in this thread) Chile is a mestizo country.
correct. That's what I've been trying to point out all over this thread.

Other countries are following Chile's model, namely Mexico and Peru. And Colombia, to a lesser degree.

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Please google "sample size determination" and you'll understand my reaction
anything else you wonder?
you are the one claiming the sample size for that study is not statistically representative. Prove it, with your own arguments.

anyway, any other DNA study shows that Chile is a Mestizo majority country and roughly as White as other countries in the region such as Paraguay, Venezuela, Colombia, Costa Rica... so it doesn't really matter.
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Old 06-12-2019, 03:18 PM
 
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no, I claimed to have visited 60-80 countries.... nothing unusual about that. I've lived in 10 countries or so maybe 8. You must take your ADHD into consideration and try to read *correctly* the posts.

Btw, I've done nothing than to argue coherently on this forum. xeric, now be quet
In today's world traveling , visiting or even (living ) in all 200 or some (independent) countries if you wish is not a (big deal )... Flights tickets are cheap enough depending on the season , . That's not an excuse . !. Somebody needs to open his/her mind
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Old 06-12-2019, 03:19 PM
 
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Nice! l like spain! one of the nicest towns is morella I think I used to co-own a finca near cambrils where in the uk do you live? I lived in exeter, mostly. I did some 737 base training in the midlands
I do Madrid /London mostly . ( I'm not braggin) Im a small town boy, but I happen to move around big cities .
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