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Old 07-25-2018, 06:57 PM
 
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Alvaro Uribe just quit the senate trying to avoid being tried by the Supreme Court. President elect Ivan Duque has even suggested in the past that the Supreme Court should be abolished. Of course getting rid of the court will avoid his mentor Uribe being convicted.

Uribe and his allies keep saying that the Supreme Court is against him because they are leftist and hate him

He instead wants his fraud and bribery charges to be handled by a prosecutor chosen by his friend Duque.

Of course if this was Venezuela or Nicaragua everybody would be yelling “dictatorship”. But since this doesn’t fit some People’s agenda it is not even being reported in the US media. When leftist expresidents were accused of anything like The expresidentes of Brazil Argentina or Ecuador it always gets reported. They report every move Maduro, Fidel or Ortega make but the news about Uribe quitting and being investigated by the Supreme court are getting no coverage.
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Old 07-25-2018, 07:26 PM
 
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Sounds familiar...
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Old 07-25-2018, 08:31 PM
 
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Alvaro Uribe just quit the senate trying to avoid being tried by the Supreme Court.


. Of course getting rid of the court will avoid his mentor Uribe being convicted.
Mamertos used to say that Uribe needed Duque as president so they could manipulate justice system and rule the country as president of the Senate. When he was elected as senator with more votes than any other candidate, Mamertos couldnt believe it, because, according to them, it would protect him from any investigation. Now that he didn't accept Senate presidency and even gave up his curule, they change their argument completely. very convenient.

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President elect Ivan Duque has even suggested in the past that the Supreme Court should be abolished
He never said anything remotely similar.

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Of course if this was Venezuela or Nicaragua everybody would be yelling “dictatorship”.
because these two countries resemble a dictatorship in many ways. Colombia does not.

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But since this doesn’t fit some People’s agenda it is not even being reported in the US media. When leftist expresidents were accused of anything like The expresidentes of Brazil Argentina or Ecuador it always gets reported. They report every move Maduro, Fidel or Ortega make but the news about Uribe quitting and being investigated by the Supreme court are getting no coverage.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/24/w...be%2C%20Alvaro


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.d9ab29fbccc4
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Old 07-25-2018, 09:13 PM
 
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Mamertos used to say that Uribe needed Duque as president so they could manipulate justice system and rule the country as president of the Senate. When he was elected as senator with more votes than any other candidate, Mamertos couldnt believe it, because, according to them, it would protect him from any investigation. Now that he didn't accept Senate presidency and even gave up his curule, they change their argument completely. very convenient.

He never said anything remotely similar.

because these two countries resemble a dictatorship in many ways. Colombia does not.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/24/w...be%2C%20Alvaro


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.d9ab29fbccc4
The news has not been covered in the places that matter. I watch Spanish news TV where people actually care for what happens in Latin America. I’m talking about Telemundo and Univision not some liberal news outlet that no Colombian or any other Latin American reads.

It is well known Ivan Duque proposed during the campaign to reform the justice system so he could help his narcoparamilitar friend Alvaro Uribe

It is also well known that many witnesses have been killed. After one witness was killed expresident Alvaro uribe sent a tweet calling the death “un buen muerto” “a good death” and pretty much insulted the person who had just died but because he was exposing all his crimes.

Colombia is not a dictatorship but if Duque starts getting rid of judges to help his mentor it will become a dictatorship. Alvaro uribe would do anything to avoid jail time and his crimes are getting exposed.

Uribe is so desperate now he claims the English MI6 are spying on him hahahahahaha

I hope that rat pays for his murders and genocides.
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Old 07-26-2018, 08:03 AM
 
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Uh oh Uh oh.......Latin Americas right wing hero is in trouble.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a7PelGhDKs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gJNf4cgLCs
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Old 07-27-2018, 05:20 PM
 
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The news has not been covered in the places that matter. I watch Spanish news TV where people actually care for what happens in Latin America. I’m talking about Telemundo and Univision not some liberal news outlet that no Colombian or any other Latin American reads.
https://www.telemundo47.com/noticias...275586901.html

https://www.univision.com/noticias/a...ia-a-su-escano
https://www.univision.com/nueva-york...politica-video

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It is well known Ivan Duque proposed during the campaign to reform the justice system
Yes and it's a perfectly valid discussion, juridically speaking.

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It is also well known that many witnesses have been killed.
yes, and all of them were linked to criminal activities. Many other ex-paramilitaries that aren't witnesses of anything have been killed too, for different reasons. They are criminals. That doesn't mean Uribe send anyone to kill them.

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After one witness was killed expresident Alvaro uribe sent a tweet calling the death “un buen muerto” “a good death” and pretty much insulted the person who had just died but because he was exposing all his crimes.
It had an ironic intention. This is exactly what Uribe quoted that time: https://twishort.com/9zXmc

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Colombia is not a dictatorship but if Duque starts getting rid of judges to help his mentor it will become a dictatorship.
The ones getting rid of judges are guerrillas and narcos that Duque is promising to fight.

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Alvaro uribe would do anything to avoid jail time and his crimes are getting exposed.
He hasn't been sentenced yet for anything at all.
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Old 07-27-2018, 06:11 PM
 
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Dude you sound like a regurgitator of Uribista rhetoric. C'mon the dude is running scared for a reason - even British millitary intelligence is on his case - that's what you get when you mess with Santos & his strong ties to the UK & NATO. Please tell me you're not one of the people that voted for Duque in the first round?

On the flip-side look how far Colombia has come, who would've thought Colombia's once untouchable president would be under so much pressure? Colombians are not going to take corruption and the notorious 'mermelada' any more, the nation is mobilising. The anti-corruption referendum on the 26th of August is going to be one to watch, if the referendum result is positive and passes in to law it will be a historic event.
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Old 07-27-2018, 11:09 PM
 
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It had an ironic intention. This is exactly what Uribe quoted that time: https://twishort.com/9zXmc
Ironic? The man had just died. Unless you are the scum of the earth you donít make a commentt like that. Would you like someone to say that after one of your family member dies?

That comment says a lot about his character and itís not excusable.
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Old 07-27-2018, 11:10 PM
 
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It had an ironic intention. This is exactly what Uribe quoted that time: https://twishort.com/9zXmc
Ironic? The man had just died. Unless you are the scum of the earth you donít make a commentt like that. Would you like someone to say that after one of your family member dies?

That comment says a lot about his character and itís not excusable.

Funny that you think quoting that disgusting Uribe message makes Uribe look better. I had read it as I was as disgusted as I am now.
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Old 07-27-2018, 11:19 PM
 
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On the flip-side look how far Colombia has come, who would've thought Colombia's once untouchable president would be under so much pressure? Colombians are not going to take corruption and the notorious 'mermelada' any more, the nation is mobilising. The anti-corruption referendum on the 26th of August is going to be one to watch, if the referendum result is positive and passes in to law it will be a historic event.
Uribe has so many skeletons in his closet his only escape now is to claim that the Supreme Court and the current president are against him

What will Duque do? Most likely he will do what The Spanish ruling party PP does. They Pretend in public that they are still supporting their party members but they will not do anything to help them because they are beyond help. If Duque tries to help his mentor he will lose popularity and for what? To protect some criminal? He needs to do what Santos did, get rid of this man.

Alvaro Uribe will probably ask his friends in Washington for political asylum and leave the country.
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