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Old 10-19-2018, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Brazil
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What is really weird is a I'm seeing posts from my Brazilian friends regarding this election that refer to faith and beliefs.
Yeah, yeah, hypocrites using the name of Jesus to justify their vote in the Anti-Christ

Bolsonaro endorses torture, and insinuates that some women "deserve" to be rapped. Super Christian...

By the way, Bolsonaro never mentioned the name of Jesus even once in his campaign... He talks about a "god" (who knows which "god" he is reffering to) but never about Jesus...
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Old 10-19-2018, 10:01 AM
 
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Yeah, yeah, hypocrites using the name of Jesus to justify their vote in the Anti-Christ

Bolsonaro endorses torture, and insinuates that some women "deserve" to be rapped. Super Christian...

By the way, Bolsonaro never mentioned the name of Jesus even once in his campaign... He talks about a "god" (who knows which "god" he is reffering to) but never about Jesus...
This is how I view the situation. Both the USA and Brazil have had ongoing issues that the political establishment hasn't addressed. So the result is that both have (or are about to) elect bozos. This should be a warning that the problem has to be fixed.

Yes if the Almighty One did intervene it is to tell us how dirty our respective houses are, because we haven't been cleaning them.


Yes the irony that the ultra religious in both countries are fervently behind two Anti-Christs is noted. Neither men lead "holy" lives.
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Old 10-20-2018, 10:05 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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ColombiaX take on Bolsonaro...

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Old 10-23-2018, 06:57 AM
 
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Yeah, yeah, hypocrites using the name of Jesus to justify their vote in the Anti-Christ

Bolsonaro endorses torture, and insinuates that some women "deserve" to be rapped. Super Christian...

By the way, Bolsonaro never mentioned the name of Jesus even once in his campaign... He talks about a "god" (who knows which "god" he is reffering to) but never about Jesus...
Hum Fernando Haddad when mayor of São Paulo had project of taxing churches (what I agree) because that the religious ones hate him.

Most people (like me) are pragmatic, are voting Bolsonaro for economic reason that what really matter. He speaks bull**** but his economic program is basically economic freedom and will do the reforms that Brazil needs...

Lula goverment was a social democracy, he kept the country out of debts with freedon for enterpreuners but took care of the social in one moment that Brazil was making much money, what made sense in that moment.

PT since Dilma turned to the f.u.c.k keynesianism, and now worse... PT now is turned to extreme left wing (in economic matter), bolivariano venezuelan style.

The average Brazilian is conservative and right wing, could acept a center-left goverment, social democracy, but never comunists.
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Old 10-23-2018, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Brazil
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Hum Fernando Haddad when mayor of São Paulo had project of taxing churches (what I agree) because that the religious ones hate him.

Most people (like me) are pragmatic, are voting Bolsonaro for economic reason that what really matter. He speaks bull**** but his economic program is basically economic freedom and will do the reforms that Brazil needs...

Lula goverment was a social democracy, he kept the country out of debts with freedon for enterpreuners but took care of the social in one moment that Brazil was making much money, what made sense in that moment.

PT since Dilma turned to the f.u.c.k keynesianism, and now worse... PT now is turned to extreme left wing (in economic matter), bolivariano venezuelan style.

The average Brazilian is conservative and right wing, could acept a center-left goverment, social democracy, but never comunists.

Oh, look, the "communist" boogie man is hiding under your bed!

History will be resgistering that you voted for the Tropical Hitler.
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Old 10-23-2018, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Brazil
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The average Brazilian idiot thinks that Sir John Maynard Keynes, 1st Baron Keynes, was a "communist".

How stupid is that?
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Old 10-23-2018, 09:22 AM
 
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Oh, look, the "communist" boogie man is hiding under your bed!

History will be resgistering that you voted for the Tropical Hitler.

Is he racist because he wants affirmative quota for the poorest being them black / pardos or whites?? (as I think) give me a break



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The average Brazilian idiot thinks that Sir John Maynard Keynes, 1st Baron Keynes, was a "communist".

How stupid is that?
Keynes teories works in some situation like crises or for determinate period of time, for develop industries in countries with few private capital, but the problem is when a party like PT currently dominate for extreme left wing with a Manuela D'avila as vice president (from comunist party) use Keynes teories as entry for their comunista venezuelan proposes.
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Old 10-23-2018, 12:01 PM
 
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I think the main reason that explain the phenomenum Jair Bolsonaro / PSL party (furthermore than economics reforms) / and his congressman and senators massive election are the lack of corruption.

He is 28 years as congressman and is one of the fews that didn’t took money from corruption builders companies and Petrobras.

Clear message from most Brazilians to the politician class, we would prefer anyone dumb politician / party than the best, but corrupt ones, as is Lula's case.
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:24 PM
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Location: Dallas, TX
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I see NO chance of Bolsonaro being good for Brazil. Haddad, if not this time, then the Worker's Party should start focusing on the following (repeated from a thread on Politics & Other Controversies)

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Here's two: Social Democracy and Human Dignity

*Shifting the tax burden more toward the wealthy for two purposes
-- Prevent power imbalances within society, which are all too tempting for people to abuse for their own petty benefit.
-- Fund key services that (outside the US) are regarded as a human right: namely low to no out of pocket expense education and health care (i.e. seeing that "freebees" actually do a society good. Look no further than Scandinavia especially, but even Canada and most of the rest of Western Europe will do for good examples).
--Beyond this, it's also recognizing the "low taxes" mantra is a shell game. For the top 50% and certainly the top third, whatever they and companies save in taxes is more than offset in increased out of pocket education and health care


*Human Dignity
-- Paying people a living wage (for those who care to think of people as just "economic machines", how does skimping on maintenance costs improve your long-run bottom line).
-- Reforming our police training so they don't treat minor offenders like members of an auto theft ring.
-- Socio-cultural issues: Recognize that racism, homophobia, transphobia, sexism still exists despite over 50 years of improvements.
-- Ending sexual and workplace harassment, workplace and school bullying

What more do I have to say?
The sooner the opposition to Bol focuses on this, the better. That's not to say ignore his crass, even cruel, insults and other degradations of human dignity. But it IS to say that, based on the USA experience, focusing on Bol's crassness alone or even mostly, is NOT going to be enough. I hope by some miracle Haddad wins, but I'm not counting on it.
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Old 10-24-2018, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Brasil's pension schemes will bankrupt the nation. While those go unreformed there's really no possibility of investing for perpetual growth in Brasil. The government will consume an ever higher amount of the capital, pushing interest rates every higher.



In the meantime, how can you really reward the party that now has hundreds of people in jail for fleecing PBR of its riches?



For years, the smart people have gone to graft. I would agree he's dumb. He's dumb enough to see a leaky spoils system and decide he wants to end it rather than enrich himself.



That's the kind of dumb Brasil needs at the moment.
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