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View Poll Results: Should the Dominican Republic (be allowed to) join CARICOM?
Yes. 13 72.22%
No. 5 27.78%
Voters: 18. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-19-2018, 06:52 PM
 
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There is a USVI film that encapsulates VI attitudes towards Dominican immigrants. Derisively called "Santos". This could be any of the smaller islands in the Caribbean.

It is "Timeless A VI Love story" and a summary can be seen on Youtube. I suggest that the nativist Dominicans look for it to understand that they aren't seen as a superior species to be worshipped. More like Spanish speaking "Haitians".
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Old 12-19-2018, 07:47 PM
 
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in fact when a Dominican airline began service to that island the prime minister had to tell Antiguans not to laugh at it.
And its Dominicans that have the superiority complex? Oh the irony.

I believe there's prejudice at both ends, obviously you mainly enjoy touting one.
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Old 12-21-2018, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Caribbean
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You dont get to treat CARICOM as a unit or as individual countries when is convenient.
Haiti is part of caricom and the fact is that more caricom citizens live in DR than the other way around at a rate of 20 to 1.
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You got that wrong, Haiti is fully integrated to caricom. caricom has not applied its immigration chapter yet, the reason all other islands can move more freely rest on bilateral agreements not caricom, thats why Haiti has been excluded.
Thanks for making my point. Haiti does not enjoy free movement and run to the DR. Meanwhile you will find Dominicans running to many other Caricom islands illegally.
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Old 02-04-2019, 12:44 PM
 
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Thanks for making my point. Haiti does not enjoy free movement and run to the DR. Meanwhile you will find Dominicans running to many other Caricom islands illegally.
The amount of Dominicans in the English Caribbean is so insignificant that even airlines do not want to connect the islands because lack of passengers. there is a significant grupe of Dominicans in ST martin (about a couple 1000's) but thats a minuscule amount. most Dominicans in the English Caribbean are descendants of people from those islands and hold citizenship from those islands trough family.
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Old 02-06-2019, 01:08 AM
 
Location: Caribbean
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The amount of Dominicans in the English Caribbean is so insignificant that even airlines do not want to connect the islands because lack of passengers. there is a significant grupe of Dominicans in ST martin (about a couple 1000's) but thats a minuscule amount. most Dominicans in the English Caribbean are descendants of people from those islands and hold citizenship from those islands trough family.
Illegal immigrants are not going to be traveling back and forth. There has been back and forth between Dominicans and some of the English speaking Caribbean nations historically but, in the present, many of them do not hold citizenship. A number of them opt to marry local to obtain legal status.

The reality is that Dominicans and Haitians both have significant illegal populations in certain English-speaking Caribbean islands and, in the English-speaking Caribbean, neither one is considered better than the other.

(Just FYI, St. Martin is extremely small so a couple thousand Dominicans is significant, not minuscule).
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:05 AM
 
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Illegal immigrants are not going to be traveling back and forth. There has been back and forth between Dominicans and some of the English speaking Caribbean nations historically but, in the present, many of them do not hold citizenship. A number of them opt to marry local to obtain legal status.

The reality is that Dominicans and Haitians both have significant illegal populations in certain English-speaking Caribbean islands and, in the English-speaking Caribbean, neither one is considered better than the other.

(Just FYI, St. Martin is extremely small so a couple thousand Dominicans is significant, not minuscule).

You do not have statistics to back up that claim that there is a "significant" number of Dominicans on these islands. The number is minuscule, almost symbolic.
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Old 02-06-2019, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Caribbean
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You do not have statistics to back up that claim that there is a "significant" number of Dominicans on these islands. The number is minuscule, almost symbolic.
Actually the population of St. Martin/St Maarten and other islands can be found online. When population of place is less than 50,000, a couple thousand Dominicans or any other group is significant. So no, the number is significant, not miniscule.

For example, in St Martin/Marteen, there are around 42,000 people. Dominicans are the largest immigrant population there with over 6000 people. Haitians are the next largest group.

I live in the Virgin Islands and a number of Dominicans here have lived in both places. There are thousands of Dominicans here and they have a larger population than Haitians. Both groups have more illegals than many other groups. Thatís just how it is. Thankfully, people here tend live and let live here. People arenít actively trying to push out illegals. People just want to live peacefully.

Where do you live? The U.S. mainland? Because what you are saying makes little sense. Anyway, Dominicans talking about Haitians being illegal is like the pot calling the kettle black. Spare us your bias. Itís nonsensical.

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Old 02-06-2019, 12:51 PM
 
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Actually the population of St. Martin/St Maarten and other islands can be found online. When population of place is less than 50,000, a couple thousand Dominicans or any other group is significant. So no, the number is significant, not miniscule.

For example, in St Martin/Marteen, there are around 42,000 people. Dominicans are the largest immigrant population there with over 6000 people. Haitians are the next largest group.

I live in the Virgin Islands and a number of Dominicans here have lived in both places. There are thousands of Dominicans here and they have a larger population than Haitians. Both groups have more illegals than many other groups. Thatís just how it is. Thankfully, people here tend live and let live here. People arenít actively trying to push out illegals. People just want to live peacefully.

Where do you live? The U.S. mainland? Because what you are saying makes little sense. Anyway, Dominicans talking about Haitians being illegal is like the pot calling the kettle black. Spare us your bias. Itís nonsensical.
Again, no statistics, anecdotes are not evidence. Dominicans in the virgin islands? doing what? why would anyone go to the poorest part of the US? that makes no sense, you dont see Dominicans in Mississippi ether, for the same reason.
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Old 02-06-2019, 01:30 PM
 
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Lol...if you ask me, the Anglo Caribbean should be thanking God that Honduras isn't trying to apply for CARICOM.

Apparently, they've caused such as huge ruckus in Mexico that locals in Tijuana actually prefer Haitian migrants over them.
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Old 02-06-2019, 02:04 PM
 
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Again, no statistics, anecdotes are not evidence. Dominicans in the virgin islands? doing what? why would anyone go to the poorest part of the US? that makes no sense, you dont see Dominicans in Mississippi ether, for the same reason.
That is correct and it was you were the one who claimed the number were miniscule without evidence. The statistics are out there. Find them.

That you are unaware of the Dominican presence in the Virgin Islands shows your lack of familiarity with movements in the region. There has been movement for decades upon decades and it makes sense why. The poorest parts of the U.S. are obviously still better for Dominicans who have lived in dire poverty in the DR. Having been to the DR, there is certainly more poverty there. It’s not even comparable.
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