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Old 10-02-2018, 11:30 AM
 
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These two are where I really see differences. Santiago DR has more similarities to an American city, with more traffic lights, and spread out feeling with the isolation feel with a more lack of people. It looks like they place that you'd want to rent a car, or find a friend with a car, because walking around it doesn't sound any more appealing than walking around your average U.S. smallish city.

Whereas Santiago Cuba has more of an intimate feel in the images. It looks like a much more interesting place to take to the streets and walk around. A little bit of hills with an intrigue of what might be around a corner.


Santiatgo de Cuba is a beautiful city..but in shambles, in ruins except the center, a communist country, nothing to do with Santo Domingo or PR. People are more cultured, quicker but living in a mouse's maze.
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Old 10-02-2018, 10:23 PM
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I didn´t realized that some of the malls in the Santo Domingo area where Dominicans shop and entertain themselves were photographed in 360 degrees too.

Agora Mall
1 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....98h,-4.61p,1z
2 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....15h,-7.68p,1z
3 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1...h,-7.61p,0.42z
4 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1...26h,-10.97p,1z
5 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1...7.92h,-6.5p,1z

Megacentro - the largest mall in Santo Domingo´s suburbs.
1 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1...5.98h,3.61p,1z
2 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1...15h,-10.12p,1z
3 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....32h,-6.31p,1z
4 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....41h,-6.71p,1z
5 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....27h,-8.77p,1z

Galeria360
1 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1...1.35h,2.74p,1z
2 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1...77.53h,2.3p,1z
3 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....53h,-5.39p,1z
4 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....18h,-6.42p,1z
5 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1...2.57h,1.55p,1z

Sambil - the largest mall in Santo Domingo proper.
1 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....89h,11.59p,1z
2 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....38h,-7.89p,1z
3 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1...34h,-15.12p,1z
4 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....37h,-4.93p,1z
5 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....29h,-7.91p,1z

There are others in Santo Domingo and in the interior of the country, but have yet to be photographed in 360 degrees.

I don´t know if there are any malls in Cuba, but I doubt it. Maybe in the tourist areas there might be a couple.

One difference between DR and Cuba is the abundance of all sorts of businesses in Dominican cities and by comparison a visually less presence of businesses in Cuban cities. This is expected, considering the economic model that has been implemented in Cuba since 1959. Until then Havana was the most important city in the Caribbean with a very vibrant business community. People from all over Latin America also went to Havana to shop because of the variety of businesses that existed there. Havana was in fact the most developed city in the tropical world. It was even more advanced than Madrid, which made it one of the top cities in the Spanish-speaking world if not the top city. Fidel Castro changed all of that.
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Old 10-03-2018, 02:03 AM
 
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Many countries have natural beauty, it’s the whole “populace struggling to make a living and surviving in a developing country” that’s the problem.

Every country has a nice developed tourist section with a sad impoverished resident section to match
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Old 10-03-2018, 02:36 AM
 
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I didn´t realized that some of the malls in the Santo Domingo area where Dominicans shop and entertain themselves were photographed in 360 degrees too.

Agora Mall
1 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....98h,-4.61p,1z
2 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....15h,-7.68p,1z
3 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1...h,-7.61p,0.42z
4 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1...26h,-10.97p,1z
5 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1...7.92h,-6.5p,1z

Megacentro - the largest mall in Santo Domingo´s suburbs.
1 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1...5.98h,3.61p,1z
2 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1...15h,-10.12p,1z
3 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....32h,-6.31p,1z
4 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....41h,-6.71p,1z
5 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....27h,-8.77p,1z

Galeria360
1 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1...1.35h,2.74p,1z
2 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1...77.53h,2.3p,1z
3 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....53h,-5.39p,1z
4 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....18h,-6.42p,1z
5 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1...2.57h,1.55p,1z

Sambil - the largest mall in Santo Domingo proper.
1 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....89h,11.59p,1z
2 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....38h,-7.89p,1z
3 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1...34h,-15.12p,1z
4 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....37h,-4.93p,1z
5 https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1....29h,-7.91p,1z

There are others in Santo Domingo and in the interior of the country, but have yet to be photographed in 360 degrees.

I don´t know if there are any malls in Cuba, but I doubt it. Maybe in the tourist areas there might be a couple.

One difference between DR and Cuba is the abundance of all sorts of businesses in Dominican cities and by comparison a visually less presence of businesses in Cuban cities. This is expected, considering the economic model that has been implemented in Cuba since 1959. Until then Havana was the most important city in the Caribbean with a very vibrant business community. People from all over Latin America also went to Havana to shop because of the variety of businesses that existed there. Havana was in fact the most developed city in the tropical world. It was even more advanced than Madrid, which made it one of the top cities in the Spanish-speaking world if not the top city. Fidel Castro changed all of that.

There are malls in Havana, atrocious prices. Havana had some department stores that were among the best in the world. Almost triple the GDP than Spain, in fact, the country had a gross problem with Spanish illegal immigration until 1959. In 1959, Spain started to take off and Cuba went to the pits. Also had a problem with Jewish immigration, Jamaican immigration, etc.
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Old 10-03-2018, 11:05 AM
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Many countries have natural beauty, it’s the whole “populace struggling to make a living and surviving in a developing country” that’s the problem.

Every country has a nice developed tourist section with a sad impoverished resident section to match
With that in mind, I’ll see if the DR’s tourist areas have enough photos in 360 degrees to post here. I have yet to show those areas, just areas where Dominicans live and play (same with Cuba, for the most part I avoided the tourist areas). Most tourists that visit the DR get to see less than 1% of the DR and my guess is that the same holds true in Cuba.

If there are enough photos, I’ll post them tonight along with Cuba’s tourist zones too.
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Old 10-03-2018, 11:15 AM
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There are malls in Havana, atrocious prices. Havana had some department stores that were among the best in the world. Almost triple the GDP than Spain, in fact, the country had a gross problem with Spanish illegal immigration until 1959. In 1959, Spain started to take off and Cuba went to the pits. Also had a problem with Jewish immigration, Jamaican immigration, etc.
That’s interesting about the malls in Havana. I’ll see if there are any 360 degrees photos of them.

The rest I knew. What happened to Cuba is sad on so many levels. In a way it’s similar to Venezuela, except that Cuba didn’t collapsed completely and Venezuela, while prosperous, was not as prosperous as Cuba, and especially Havana, was in its heyday. Almost all the buildings and infrastructure in Cuba was built before the Communist Revolution. It’s insane.

In that sense Cuba is the complete opposite of the DR, where most buildings, roads, homes, etc were built within the last 30 or 40 years. Most highrises and skyscrapers were built within the last 20 years, most malls within the last 10-15 years, most resorts also within the last 20 years, about 50-60% of middle class neighborhoods and apartment projects are only about 10-20 years too.

Cuba froze in time while DR kept moving forward.
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Old 10-04-2018, 10:59 AM
 
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Cuba collapsed entirely with communists in 1959, but Russians funneled 5.000.000.000 a year that was pilfered in the most stupid and deranged things.

Cuban malls, la puntilla and Carlos III, maybe there are more.
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Old 10-04-2018, 03:24 PM
 
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Cuba cities look so much cooler/more attractive than Dominican Republic cities. Thoughts?

I've never been to Cuba, but would love to go. I have been to the Dominican Republic though. My thoughts on Santo Domingo was that it is okay....but not particularly attractive/interesting. The Colonial Zone was just okay, in a mediocre kind of way. When I've viewed other cities like Santiago in DR, it looks more car-oriented, less inviting to walk around.

But pretty much everywhere in Cuba looks quite inviting. Not only Havana but pretty much every city seems to have some character and attractive elements to it. Why do you think that is?

If you disagree with me on that, please give some examples of where and why, as I'd like to see DR a bit differently than that...
Havana is more interesting, not only old Havana but Centro Havana, which is an 18th and 19th-century section. Then you have Vedado, which was a posh neighborhood, la Vibora, which is fascinating, Miramar, etc. Now, you have to like ruins. City demographics have changed from white to whatever which is kind of catastrophic as Havana was always a very Spanish city, foreigners were 25 percent of the population, a very large Chinese and Jewish quarter, Poles, etc..all gone. According to remaining habaneros, it was done purposely to destroy the city as sideburns always hated the city in which he was rebuked for being a redneck with poor personal hygiene.
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Old 10-04-2018, 03:31 PM
 
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demographics have changed from white to whatever which is kind of catastrophic .


I see changing from being a white city to being a diverse one is a catastrophe. Amazing the stuff people feel so proud to chat about.
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Old 10-04-2018, 03:38 PM
 
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With that in mind, I’ll see if the DR’s tourist areas have enough photos in 360 degrees to post here. I have yet to show those areas, just areas where Dominicans live and play (same with Cuba, for the most part I avoided the tourist areas). Most tourists that visit the DR get to see less than 1% of the DR and my guess is that the same holds true in Cuba.

If there are enough photos, I’ll post them tonight along with Cuba’s tourist zones too.


Unfortunately, you find Canadian tourists, which are pestiferous, awful, in many areas that had no tourists in the past. Canadian tourists are not good, and tourist income is ridiculous. Remittances from Cubans abroad are four times that of tourism. They should limit those tourists, but golden Americans tourists don't come, wealthy Cuban American don't come, only balseros...Tourism is a disaster. Russians leave good money, but wealthy Europen independent tourists don't come because Cuba is very expensive and difficult.
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