So much hatred of Haitians (crime, country, safe, place)
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DR per capita income (nominal) $7,900 is virtually tied with St Vincent ($7,500) and is ahead of only Dominica and Jamaica among the Caribbean islands. Trinidad & Tobago, Barbados, Antigua, The Bahamas and St Kitts & Nevis are above $16,000. DOUBLE.
So where does this "DR is the richest country in the Caribbean" nonsense come from. Yes I know that many DR elites cannot stand the fact that its poorer than a bunch of little Caribbean islands run by black people, but it is what it is. And they will gladly hire Dominican women to be domestics and bar maids as well!
Understand this. Many in other parts of the Caribbean look at Dominicans with the same contempt because of their poverty as you look down on Haitians. Many jokes about how a Dominican woman would spread her legs for a few dollars.
you cant talk economics, you obiously know nothing about it, nomnal GDP is meaningless, as it does not account for differences in purchasing power, GDP PPP is the one you should use when comparing countries.
Don't you see a contradiction here? You get to Spain because of a possible mythology (you claim that you have documentary proof) that you have some Spanish ancestry. Did you make the same effort to go live in Ghana where people of African descent receive similar privileges if they wish to reside in that nation?
Apparently you make much of your European ancestors so why ridicule those who self identify as "mixed"?
Spain is an advanced first world nation, and as a member of the EU it gives me the right to live and work throughout the EU.
Citizenship in Ghana us simply not worthwhile and you have immigrants from Ghana across Europe.
But only a daily basis would I talk about European ancestry? No. Frankly there’s no material gain to it, since I have gotten all the material gain I can get out of it. I’m Black because that’s what I look like and it’s not just worth my time to get into conversations with random people in my genealogy. Who cares?
Spain is an advanced first world nation, and as a member of the EU it gives me the right to live and work throughout the EU.
Citizenship in Ghana us simply not worthwhile and you have immigrants from Ghana across Europe.
But only a daily basis would I talk about European ancestry? No. Frankly there’s no material gain to it, since I have gotten all the material gain I can get out of it. I’m Black because that’s what I look like and it’s not just worth my time to get into conversations with random people in my genealogy. Who cares?
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Originally Posted by caribny
Don't you see a contradiction here? You get to Spain because of a possible mythology (you claim that you have documentary proof) that you have some Spanish ancestry. Did you make the same effort to go live in Ghana where people of African descent receive similar privileges if they wish to reside in that nation?
Apparently you make much of your European ancestors so why ridicule those who self identify as "mixed"?
Spain is an advanced first world nation, and as a member of the EU it gives me the right to live and work throughout the EU.
Re: African Americans, there are people who have grandparents from Italy or Germany and who can get those European citizenships.
European nations grant citizenship by blood, not race so anyone with whatever amount of ancestry from that Europeans nation can get citizenship from nation. An Asian with an Italian great great grandparent could get Italian citizenship. Anyone with a great grandparent who fled the Holocaust could get German citizenships and due to interracial relationships this applies to a number of non whites. My connection just happened to be via a Sephardic slaveowner who impregnated his slave/concubine.
Lots of non white South Americans, via an European ancestor have done what I did and for the same reason.
But if citizenship in Ghana appeals to you, go for it. I absolutely will not. My money, my life, and my decision.
Now that I have Europe no news for third world country.
I decided to join this anti-Black(especially Haitian and ADOS) site just to address this dumbass post. Because I notice this moronic Dominican from all over the web spreading his same tired Dominican propaganda.
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Originally Posted by Banilejo
You're by far the dumbest poster I have seen in this forum, could you make it any more clearer that you have an inferiority complex due to your own blackness?
A Dominican talking about inferiority complex? How cute.
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lol We give your Haitian people jobs so they don't starve to death in Haiti.
You Dominicans don't give Haitians ****. The only people who has helped Haiti out has been Cuba and Venezuela who have more character and morals than Dominican.
Another Dumbmican Nationalist myth crushed. But no... Lets continue. Look up the region of Artibonite you dipset. I know clowns like you only listen to what is spoon fed but your elites but Haiti produces its own ****ing food especially when it comes to rice.
Heck Haiti at one part was the largest food exporter in the Caribbean due to how arable its land is.
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Originally Posted by Banilejo
Haitians eat cookies made of dirt and fecal matter.
Oh man! This one is my favorite from you Dumbmican nationalist clowns. Fetch us statistical sources of Haitians eating mud cookies and fecal matter in large number. I dare you. And don't post the same tired Youtube video. Also the "mud" that Haitians eat is NOT for food but is more of a medicine.
I mean Haitians do have a long history of working medicines since slavery and Vodou is filled with it to a point of some scientists even agreeing it can be used as a healthcare system.
Foreign aid and NGO hasn't done **** for Haiti but try and make it a neoliberal colony.
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DR has the most robust agriculture industry in the Caribbean region, while Haiti has no real industries, and produces almost nothing besides poverty stricken and disease-ridden people who infest other countries in the region, the biggest Haitian exports are things like hiv/aids, malaria, dengue fever, cholera, etc.
Bolded was already debunked. Haiti feeds itself just not at a extremely fast rate. Either way it was the USA especially under Clinton who ****ed up our agriculture industry but like I showed its been rising. Either way DR's largest export is prostitution. Also instead of worrying about Haiti, Haitians and African-Americans how about you're people try and stop murdering tourists before Trump sanctions yall.
Dominican Republic tourism has dropped more than 74%: study
This is what happens when you **** with Ezili's people.
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Originally Posted by Banilejo
And most whores in here are also black Haitians in places like sosua and boca chica, since they sell their own children into slavery, look up RESTAVEKS in Haiti and learn something, you imbecile.
Man oh MAN!!!! Your posts are such an enjoyment. I love it when you Dumbmican nationalists try and pin/scapegoat all your issues on Haitians. No I know many people who been to Sosua and Boca Chica(your women(whores) are very cheap I might add. 2500 pesos for a women? Don't forget "happy hour" ) and they said while there were Haitians also whoring themselves out the majority of the women especially in Sosua were DOMINICANS from all over DR from Puerto Plata, Santiago(yea your pale skinned Dominican ilk also whoring themselves out), the capital, etc, etc. So cut the **** with pinning it all on Haitians. Your women don't like to work and so they ***** themselves out. Prostitution is looked down in Haitian culture and that's why those whores go to DR because its tolerated. Hell, most of the escorts/brothels/prostitutes in the tri-state area are Dominican. Its apart of your culture. Heck Dominican whores even go to Petionville, Haiti. Oh you think I'm lying?
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Sex workers have always traveled to Haiti from the Dominican Republic, but the astonishing thing is that even after Haiti's devastating Jan. 12 earthquake, the network of prostitution continued to grow, according to a recent U.N. report. In fact, its expansion may have been encouraged by all the reports of overseas aid raised to help with disaster relief in Haiti. (In March, for example, an aid conference announced pledges totaling more than $5 billion.) Juanita, 22 (her name has been changed to protect her identity), says she decided to take a two-month contract to work in Port-au-Prince, leaving her hometown of Santiago de los Caballeros(this ***** is from YOUR town Hector). A friend had convinced Juanita that she could make a sizable income because of the influx of foreigners and the huge amount of financial assistance headed toward Haiti. A June 2010 "Trafficking in Persons Report" by the U.S. State Department found forced prostitution of Dominican women in brothels in Haiti allegedly frequented by peacekeeprs in the U.N. Stabilization Mission in Haiti. The U.N. forbids peacekeepers from patronizing brothels and is currently investigating the cases.
So are these whores also Haitian? But nooooooo... Lets continue. Like that other poster Caribny(whatever his name is) said Dominican women are among the biggest prostitutes in the Caribbean and are known for setting up brothels in different islands. Think I'm lying?
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More than 50 foreign females, mainly from the Dominican Republic and Venezuela, who were suspected of being involved in sex trafficking, were recently detained and questioned by local police and immigration officers who were joined by agents from International Police Criminal Organization (INTERPOL) in raiding several bars in Providenciales in a highly controversial sting operation.
Investigations by The SUN revealed that most of the questioned females have since been sent back to their native countries, while local authorities have introduced more strict measures to make it more difficult for local bar owners to hire women from the Dominican Republic and Venezuela, from where the vast majority of female bar tenders have been sourced for many years.
The study quoted unconfirmed findings of the National Security Ministry which stated that victims of trafficking between June 2009 and August 2012 were 39 percent Venezuelan, 31 percent Colombian, 22 percent from the Dominican Republic and eight percent from Guyana, according to a Newsday report.
Haiti would collapse entirely without foreign aid since half of Haiti's GDP is based on the foreign donations of food and medicine.
You don't know ****. Haiti was self sufficient from the 30s to late 70s. And like I said the majority of the Haitian locals do NOT want ****ing foreign aid because it makes us less sufficient and it never DONE anything for the country. The reason we are in our conditions because of the ****ing PHTK party and their western backed core group who wants to keep the country as some neoliberal experiment. Either way Haitians in Haiti are still hustling and making ends meet because we are survivors.
DR wouldn't be **** without its tourism which is mostly ran by foreigners. You Dominicans are lazy even in the USA. Where most of you guys deal drugs on and off the island. So you should stop talking ****. I know many people who been to DR and they ALWAYS say that the Germans, Russians and now even Chinese run DR.
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Originally Posted by Banilejo
Haiti is the poorest country in the western Hemisphere.
No ****. I mean what is the Dominican education system doing.
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Originally Posted by Banilejo
Do you not understand basic economics, or even basic math. Do you not comprehend how much richer DR is than Haiti, there a gigantic difference between a GDP of over 186 billion and a GDP of 19 billion. DR might as well be a first-world country in the eyes of an AVERAGE Haitian, 80% of Haitians live in poverty, and about half live in extreme levels of poverty comparable to the worst nations in Africa. While in DR we have strong growing middle-class in the major cities and towns, we have high rise buildings and skyscrapers, high-speed metro trains, highways connecting every region. DR is an upper-middle income country with gold mining operations, manufacturing centers, a robust agricultural sector, and the strongest tourism industry in the region.
Where do you pool this garbage from? Your ass? First off DR's GDP is 81.30 billion NOT 186 billion. I know you Dumbmican nationalist love to lie yall asses off. Second GDP is not a REAL measure of wealth(gonna address that soon). For someone who claims he knows so much about economics you don't know jack****. If this was the case then Nigeria would be among the richest nations. And DR only has the strongest tourism industry because its cheap as **** and USA has been sanctioning Cuba.
And since when the **** is DR "an upper-middle class income" country? Do you even know what makes an upper-middle income country.
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More than a third of the Dominican Republic lives on less than $1.25 a day and over 20 percent of the country lives in extreme poverty. Most of the poverty in the Dominican Republic is concentrated in the rural areas. The rural poverty rate is about three times as high as the urban poverty rate.
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Though the economy has been growing since 1996, economic inequality remains a major problem. Since the government does not provide more than 4 percent of GDP spending on education, only 30 percent of children finish primary school. In a system where education is the road to the middle class, creating economic barriers to education perpetuates a system of institutional inequality.
Half of the country does not have access to clean water, and over half of the country does not have sanitary toilets. Healthcare is expensive and hard to find in rural areas.
Since the main industry of the Dominican Republic is tourism, rural areas are often overlooked when it comes to government investment. Though rural communities depend on the farming industry, the government has not done much to address the low agricultural productivity. Farmers often do not own enough land to manage subsistence farming, making income-generating agriculture impossible. Although there is technology available to increase crop production, rural farmers simply do not have access to these resources due to financial circumstances.
Natural disasters, including hurricanes, tsunamis, earthquakes, and mudslides, constantly threaten rural areas. Much of the rural infrastructure has collapsed due to natural disasters
Though President Danilo Medina has promised to spend more on education, he has said little about his plans to increase agricultural production, increase access to healthcare, and provide aid to rural communities. With a strong focus on tourism, the majority of the nine million people who call the Dominican Republic home are stuck in poverty.
DR is the richest country in the entire Caribbean,
LMAO!!! Now I definitely know you're pulling **** outta your funky ass. DR is poor as **** in terms of Caribbean standards. And like many of these Caribbean posters have stated after Haitians, Dominicans are the biggest migrants in the Caribbean. Richest Countries in the Caribbean
No Hector its Bahamas, Barbados and Trinidad that are the richest Caribbean nations. NOT DR. The first two which are majority Black. I know researching is not a priority among you Dumbmican nationalist but again GDP is not a true measure of wealth or else Ethiopia would be wealthier than Kenya.
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Originally Posted by Banilejo
while Haiti is poorer than countries like Zimbabwe, Rwanda, Zambia, Uganda. This is why these Haitians come here by the thousands every day.
LMAO!!!! You're proving more and more that you're pulling **** outta your funky ass.
Haiti is above both Rwanda and Uganda in GDP per capita.
Also Zimbabwe and Zambia are resource rich countries unlike Haiti heck most of African countries are resource which helps contribute to their economy. Like what the ****? Also is this some type of competition? I know you Dominicans view Black Africans as inferior but I salute the progress made with African countries. Either way during colonization Haiti used to send doctors to Africa.
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Originally Posted by Banilejo
Here we go folks. He's gonna spam us with cherrypicked propaganda videos. Like he always does on every site.
Santo Domingo city alone has a larger GDP than the entire country of Haiti.
That's because the majority of the capital in DR comes from SD dumbass. Anyways do you got statistical numbers because you haven't shown us jack.
QUOTE=Banilejo;55698494] Hell, even Santiago de los Caballeros has a larger GDP than Haiti. DR's economic activity is over 10x times larger than that of Haiti and DR is still growing at a faster rate also. It would take Haiti about a century of positive economic growth to even reach the level that we are currently at. That's why your Haitian people come here even though they say we treat them as garbage. They rather live here as our "slaves" than go back to their sewer pit nation. Haitians here work mostly in menial agricultural labour in the sugar plantations, or cleaning toilets and serving pina colatas in Punta Cana, or doing basic domestic work. Haitians work the low-skilled tasks and are expendable, they compete with the lower working class in DR, which is the reason why this segment of our population migrates to other places in the first place. They want higher wages in other countries. Again, that is just basic economics for your mentally deficient kind. Haitians are expendable and can be replaced by a more modernized industry. Nevertheless the majority of Haitian are still employed BY Dominicans, people of every social-strata in this country use cheap Haitian labour, upper-class, middle-class, and working-class people. Haitians would work for a moldy piece of bread, since it's better than eating dirtcakes, they are the eternal under-class of this nation.
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Notice no statistical numbers for the bolded just more Dumbmican nationalist babble. Most which has been dubunked.
And Dominicans in DR are pimping Haitians? Cool. Germans, Russians, Chinese, etc, etc are pimping Dominicans along with your elites.
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Originally Posted by Banilejo
More shiny videos.
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Originally Posted by Banilejo
Now do you still think all this development comes from tourism in some coastal periphery areas? Tell me how stupid can you be? The most prosperous areas of DR are many miles away from any beach resorts. Tourism is only concentrated in the Eastern region of this country and in some small coastal towns in the north, most Dominicans are not not employed in the tourism sector. I don't know of a single person that works in a tourist hotel or resort. Most people employed in these resort areas are Haitians since like I said they work for slave wages, the Punta Cana area is over 81.1% Haitian workers for example. The majority of the Dominican population is concentrated in the Central Cibao region and Southern Valdesia region; those are by far the most developed areas of the country, and they have zero reliance on the tourism industry, as we don't have beach resorts here, we have mountains and valleys instead. Go look at Santiago de los Caballeros, Moca, La Vega, San Francisco, etc. and compare it to Port Au Prince in Haiti. Any major city and town in the Dominican Republic's central Cibao region is superior to Haiti's largest city when it comes to architecture, infrastructure, education, public services, and any other metric. We have superior human capital and that is clearly reflected in the built environment and the institutions of our major urban centers. Haiti's richest neighborhood, Petionville, looks like a filthy dungheap compared to the towns and neighborhoods of the Cibao region. Societies at every level are a reflection of the type which inhabit them, be it nations, cities, towns, neighborhoods. Low quality people create low quality environments, while high quality people create high quality environments.
More tired Dumbmican nationalist babble. Most which have been refuted. Notice how this clown carefully cherrypicks his videos and also he mainly focuses on the Cibao region(the whitest of course). Most local Dominicans live in poverty and are not living like how he projects in these videos. Most of the Dominican population live in the rural areas. Now unlike his ass how about we post some data. Here is what the Taino/Spaniard wannabe doesn't show you.
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The Dominican Republic has long been viewed primarily as an exporter of sugar, coffee, and tobacco, but in recent years the service sector has overtaken agriculture as the economy’s largest employer, due to growth in telecommunications, tourism, and free trade zones.
The economy in the Dominican Republic is highly dependent upon the US, the destination for nearly 60% of exports. Remittances from the US amount to about a tenth of GDP, equivalent to almost half of exports and three-quarters of tourism receipts.
The country suffers from marked income inequality; the poorest half of the population receives less than one-fifth of GDP, while the richest 10% enjoys nearly 40% of GDP. High unemployment and underemployment remains an important long-term challenge.
The growth of the Dominican Republic’s economy rebounded in 2010 from the global recession, and remains one of the fastest growing in the region.
I know its EASY to poke fun at the plight of Haitians in Haiti to make yourself feel better but at the end of the day on an EVEN PLAYING FIELD Haitians OUTCLASS Dominicans in the USA. Hell, Dominicans are behind us African-Americans in income. Dominican Americans have an income of a mere 20,000.
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Income. The median annual personal earnings for Dominicans ages 16 and older was $20,000 in the year prior to the survey — slightly lower than the median earnings for all U.S. Hispanics ($21,900) and lower than the median earnings for the U.S. population ($30,000).
This wouldn't be that bad if we IGNORED that 20,000 is BELOW the USA median earnings and you are comparing a population of 45 MILLION(more than Australia or Canada) that is bigger than a population that is just 2 million. I know that hurts. Meanwhile for Haitians a $47,200. https://www.migrationpolicy.org/arti...-united-states
So much for Haitians being inferior human capital.
Anyways I never wanted to join this site from what I read and heard about it(I am 100% certain I will be banned in a few hours or the very least 48 hours) but I notice many posters of different ethnic groups throwing shades at both my ethnic groups and so I had to fire back.
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Originally Posted by caribny
That being my point so those Dominicans who justify their animosity towards Haitians base don events of almost 200 years ago and constantly scream about Haitians plotting to invade look ridiculous.
The issue with the DR is that they have their own problems and are ill equipped to deal with those of a failed state.
No offense but I notice you keep going around saying Haiti is a "failed state." Do you know what makes a failed state? I mean no **** Haiti is poor as **** and has a ****ty institution thanks to Western backed meddling and the corrupt Lebanese backed PHTK party. Either way Somalia, Yemen and South Sudan are "failed states." Kagame
By your logic the Great Lakes African country of Rwanda is a "failed state" since its much poorer than Haiti yet it is deemed as an object example for an "African economic model." Heck Uganda and Ethiopia( didn't look like one when I was there) are failed states. I know people who were literally just in Haiti last week and they were good and they say the news media exaggerates ****. Its Port Au Prince where we most of the ****ery and even still he was good in PAP.
While I appreciate you educating some of these Dominicans on Haiti its annoying reading false labels.
Anyways I never wanted to join this site from what I read and heard about it(I am 100% certain I will be banned in a few hours or the very least 48 hours) but I notice many posters of different ethnic groups throwing shades at both my ethnic groups and so I had to fire back.
No offense but I notice you keep going around saying Haiti is a "failed state." Do you know what makes a failed state? I mean no **** Haiti is poor as **** and has a ****ty institution thanks to Western backed meddling and the corrupt Lebanese backed PHTK party. Either way Somalia, Yemen and South Sudan are "failed states." Kagame
By your logic the Great Lakes African country of Rwanda is a "failed state" since its much poorer than Haiti yet it is deemed as an object example for an "African economic model." Heck Uganda and Ethiopia( didn't look like one when I was there) are failed states. I know people who were literally just in Haiti last week and they were good and they say the news media exaggerates ****. Its Port Au Prince where we most of the ****ery and even still he was good in PAP.
While I appreciate you educating some of these Dominicans on Haiti its annoying reading false labels.
Haiti is the shame of the world, Haiti must be dissolved and put under UN management, so its neighbors can have some peace. There is no future for that land, it failed, will keep failing and your opinions are an example of why it will keep failing.
Haiti is the shame of the world, Haiti must be dissolved and put under UN management, so its neighbors can have some peace. There is no future for that land, it failed, will keep failing and your opinions are an example of why it will keep failing.
I bet you want that Haiti. That's why we don't trust pricks like you. Funny the people who complain about Haiti are the people who have hands in its sabotage. Anyways, did my post offend you because there was finally someone not being passive in this thread? And nope my FACTS show who are sabotaging Haiti. I wasn't going to sit idle by while people in this thread talk whatever **** they want.
I bet you want that Haiti. That's why we don't trust pricks like you. Funny the people who complain about Haiti are the people who have hands in its sabotage. Anyways, did my post offend you because there was finally someone not being passive in this thread? And nope my FACTS show who are sabotaging Haiti. I wasn't going to sit idle by while people in this thread talk whatever **** they want.
tf YOU did for haiti, have you invested in haiti or helped out the nation and its people in any meaningful way shape or form prolly not , SHUDDAP its a SH*T HOLE point blank
I bet you want that Haiti. That's why we don't trust pricks like you. Funny the people who complain about Haiti are the people who have hands in its sabotage. Anyways, did my post offend you because there was finally someone not being passive in this thread? And nope my FACTS show who are sabotaging Haiti. I wasn't going to sit idle by while people in this thread talk whatever **** they want.
Haiti is sabotaging it self.
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