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Old 11-27-2018, 10:50 AM
 
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Good for you for sticking up for your island. Disagree on Trinidad being the business capital of the Caribbean. It's up there though and through its oil deposits definitely doesnt overly rely on tourism. People can name Usain Bolt besides Bob Marley although the question of who can you name is pretty silly when everyone agrees that Jamaica is very well known. As you stated Jamaica is full of resorts. If you want to experience the real Jamaica there are resorts that cater to that. Certainly dont agree that Trinidad offers a more "real" visit. If you want real, Jamaica can give you that.

I believe the OP was just trying to generate discussion as the premise that Trinidad is unknown is wrong.
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Old 11-27-2018, 11:35 AM
 
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Trinidad did not spend boat loads of money coming up with catchy jingles to sell vacation packages.
Trinidad is not and has never been a country full of resorts.
It is pretty much the business capital of the Caribbean.
Ok. I understand that the ignorance of some may be a source of annoyance but no need to knock the other islands that depend greatly on tourism. It is true that Trinidad is not a country full of resorts.

Yes, Trinidad is a major business hub, particularly for the energy sector but, as whogoesthere points out, not necessarily the business capital of the Caribbean. Not sure any island can claim that as the business focal points differ depending on the island.
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Old 11-27-2018, 03:00 PM
 
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Ok. I understand that the ignorance of some may be a source of annoyance but no need to knock the other islands that depend greatly on tourism. It is true that Trinidad is not a country full of resorts.

Yes, Trinidad is a major business hub, particularly for the energy sector but, as whogoesthere points out, not necessarily the business capital of the Caribbean. Not sure any island can claim that as the business focal points differ depending on the island.
I was not knocking the other islands.
That Jamaica's ability to market themselves as a tourist destination is marketing gold!

They did an amazing job.
They has loads of beautiful resorts.
There is nothing wrong with that at all.

Trust me I would much prefer to be sitting on a beach in Montego Bay vs being parked in a sun chair in front of the Pitch Lake in Trinidad.

Trinidad is not as know, but some people don't know much about other places in general.

Each of the Island's in the Caribbean are different and this is a good thing.
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Old 11-27-2018, 03:07 PM
 
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Good for you for sticking up for your island. Disagree on Trinidad being the business capital of the Caribbean. It's up there though and through its oil deposits definitely doesnt overly rely on tourism. People can name Usain Bolt besides Bob Marley although the question of who can you name is pretty silly when everyone agrees that Jamaica is very well known. As you stated Jamaica is full of resorts. If you want to experience the real Jamaica there are resorts that cater to that. Certainly dont agree that Trinidad offers a more "real" visit. If you want real, Jamaica can give you that.

I believe the OP was just trying to generate discussion as the premise that Trinidad is unknown is wrong.
Ha Ha Ha ... I don't know who Usain Bolt is. I had to look it up.

If you said Sean Paul I would have understood.

I also question if Trinidad is just not as know because we don't need to draw people in as much.
We are a wealthier Island even though like 10% have all the money. We don't want to or need to share our mangos with the world.

The oil, pitch and drug trade is helping us put keep bread on the table lol.
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Old 11-27-2018, 06:19 PM
 
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You didnt know who Usain Bolt was?...that's wild....regardless, glad we keeping it civil...we and unoo Trinis battle all the time butvI didn't want no beef to start because of outsiders....we can battle amongst ourselves.....keep it in the family
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Old 11-28-2018, 08:45 AM
 
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I was not knocking the other islands.
That Jamaica's ability to market themselves as a tourist destination is marketing gold!

They did an amazing job.
They has loads of beautiful resorts.
There is nothing wrong with that at all.

Trust me I would much prefer to be sitting on a beach in Montego Bay vs being parked in a sun chair in front of the Pitch Lake in Trinidad.

Trinidad is not as know, but some people don't know much about other places in general.

Each of the Island's in the Caribbean are different and this is a good thing.
Well who would park in front of the Pitch Lake when you could sit on the beach in Maracas or one of Tobagoís lovely beaches? IJS...lol.

My point was only that there is nothing wrong with creating jingles to sell vacation packages. Thatís not only what Jamaica does but what many islands do to bring in the revenue from tourism. And I agree with you that each of the islands is different...
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Old 11-28-2018, 08:49 AM
 
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Ha Ha Ha ... I don't know who Usain Bolt is. I had to look it up.

If you said Sean Paul I would have understood.

I also question if Trinidad is just not as know because we don't need to draw people in as much.
We are a wealthier Island even though like 10% have all the money. We don't want to or need to share our mangos with the world.

The oil, pitch and drug trade is helping us put keep bread on the table lol.
Thatís exactly what it is...no serious need to draw visitors at this point. So it is just not the main focus.
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Old 11-29-2018, 11:03 PM
 
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Come carnival season there is no more room for any Tourists. There are too many as it is. I heard local people are actually get annoyed that tourist are buying up costumes which are often costing at least $500 US each for the basic costumes. Every hotel is fully booked. Trinidad is not really set up to be packed up with Tourists. Tobago is different, but even still there are only so many people that can fit on an Island.

I went to Trinidad and played mas in one of the big bands. This was years ago and my costume was around $500 back then. I wonder how much they cost now.


You are right about it being more difficult as a tourist, especially if you are one of those tourists who want to be able to pay $700 and have everything included. Part of the fun was constructing my own trip. I stayed in a neighborhood B&B because the hotels were too far away from the action. I didn't know hotels had armed guards. That doesn't sound like fun! Has crime gotten that bad?
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Old 11-30-2018, 09:06 AM
 
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I went to Trinidad and played mas in one of the big bands. This was years ago and my costume was around $500 back then. I wonder how much they cost now.


You are right about it being more difficult as a tourist, especially if you are one of those tourists who want to be able to pay $700 and have everything included. Part of the fun was constructing my own trip. I stayed in a neighborhood B&B because the hotels were too far away from the action. I didn't know hotels had armed guards. That doesn't sound like fun! Has crime gotten that bad?
Regarding the $700 comment. That is right. If you do to an Island like Trinidad you need to have more money. Safety is a big deal. Express kidnapping, robbery and murder rates are high.


If you go to a nice hotel, casino or private event expect armed security. It is needed. I stayed a ta nicer hotel in Port of Spain near Movie town. I did not notice the armed guards all the time. But on several occasion there were guards dressed in military uniforms with machine guns. No even hand guns.


I never had any issues but it is common knowledge there even for locals you need to be cautious.
There are often public curfews. Parts of Jamaica have this too at times. A while back there was one in Montego Bay. The difference is if you go to Montego Bay you are tucked away on the resort. If you go to Port of Spain as a tourist you are own your own.


Also as in most Third world countries the police are just a likely to be crooks or thugs.


It is possible to go as a tourist and have a safe trip.... but it is a harder trip as you need to be more thoughtful of how you conduct yourself.


The costumes are expensive. Yet people find the money to by out costumes even if they have to beg, borrow or steal to get one. Carnival is a priority especially for the middle or upper classes.


Carnival is a BIG deal!
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Old 11-30-2018, 09:16 AM
 
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Hey, thanks for chiming in. I ended up looking at crime stats for T&T and it looks like they were pretty high when I was there. The only time I felt unsafe is when I found myself walking in an area that wasn't really populated (and I shouldn't have been doing that) and when I went to pick up my costume. The taxi looked like a gypsy taxi and we were going up some winding hill. I was thinking, "I hope I'm gonna make it back!" It was a really great time though. More people should visit Trinidad. I totally felt at home. The people are so friendly.
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