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Old 02-10-2019, 03:48 PM
 
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If you mean that I am “one of those Jamaicans” then yes, I am. Jamaicans, some, not all, speak patois but it is our second language NOT first.
The majority/most Jamaicans speak patios most of the time, some speak it all of the time, and many speak standard English with an accent, fact. Patios is what Jamaicans are known for, Sean Paul and Shaggy sold millions of records speaking patios. I've seen uptown kingstonians get accused of not being a real Jamaican by people who are ignorant to the fact that we do speak English. People imitate patios not the "queen's English". And if you find yourself arguing with people all the time trying to convince them that we all speak the "queen's English most of the time, then you need to admit that Jamaica is known more for patois.

People in Jamaica who are uneducated on Languages and how they develop have tried to demonize Patios, which is probably why you feel the way you do. The English Language itself developed from German and Latin. Spanish, French, Italian, etc, all developed from Vulgar Latin.

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Old 02-12-2019, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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As far as I know only the U.S and maybe the U.K has a larger influence on popular music in the western world. Dancehall musicians extremely influential among rappers and DJs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancehall It also has influence in rap and reggaeton as well. In fact Drake the biggest artist in the world wants to be a British Jamaican, and the Jamaican accent or inspired accent is extremely popular in Toronto and London. Not to mention Usain Bolt is referenced in songs so much that I wouldn’t be surprised to find his name in a Country song. Music is we’re Jamaica has punch kilometers over its weight.

Even the biggest/2nd biggest artist in Nigeria and one of the biggest in Africa if not the biggest, has a Afrobear song that to many Africans felt like Willis has gone completely Jamaican. Obviously as we aren’t Jamaican we associated this style of music with Jamaica.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vqW18C4plZ8

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Old 02-12-2019, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Canada
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and the Jamaican accent or inspired accent is extremely popular in Toronto
LOL Yes, a little too much . They mix up Jamaican slang with American slang and it just sounds weird. And it is not just Blacks that do this. I have heard Pakistani, Punjabi, Sri lankan kids etc do this quite a bit. LOL.
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Old 02-12-2019, 03:41 PM
 
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As far as I know only the U.S and maybe the U.K has a larger influence on popular music in the western world. Dancehall musicians extremely influential among rappers and DJs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancehall It also has influence in rap and reggaeton as well. In fact Drake the biggest artist in the world wants to be a British Jamaican, and the Jamaican accent or inspired accent is extremely popular in Toronto and London. Not to mention Usain Bolt is referenced in songs so much that I wouldn’t be surprised to find his name in a Country song. Music is we’re Jamaica has punch kilometers over its weight.

Even the biggest/2nd biggest artist in Nigeria and one of the biggest in Africa if not the biggest, has a Afrobear song that to many Africans felt like Willis has gone completely Jamaican. Obviously as we aren’t Jamaican we associated this style of music with Jamaica.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vqW18C4plZ8
Reggaeton is basically the Latino version of Dancehall.
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Old 02-13-2019, 02:28 AM
 
Location: Caribbean
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As far as I know only the U.S and maybe the U.K has a larger influence on popular music in the western world. Dancehall musicians extremely influential among rappers and DJs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancehall It also has influence in rap and reggaeton as well. In fact Drake the biggest artist in the world wants to be a British Jamaican, and the Jamaican accent or inspired accent is extremely popular in Toronto and London. Not to mention Usain Bolt is referenced in songs so much that I wouldn’t be surprised to find his name in a Country song. Music is we’re Jamaica has punch kilometers over its weight.

Even the biggest/2nd biggest artist in Nigeria and one of the biggest in Africa if not the biggest, has a Afrobear song that to many Africans felt like Willis has gone completely Jamaican. Obviously as we aren’t Jamaican we associated this style of music with Jamaica.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vqW18C4plZ8
This...

...and yea, WizKid’s sound definitely has Jamaican influence. Also Mr. Eazi...
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Old 02-28-2019, 09:50 AM
 
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Ok. I understand that the ignorance of some may be a source of annoyance but no need to knock the other islands that depend greatly on tourism. It is true that Trinidad is not a country full of resorts.

Yes, Trinidad is a major business hub, particularly for the energy sector but, as whogoesthere points out, not necessarily the business capital of the Caribbean. Not sure any island can claim that as the business focal points differ depending on the island.
Ironically the business capital of the Caribbean is Miami. San Juan tried but failed.
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Old 02-28-2019, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Caribbean
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Ironically the business capital of the Caribbean is Miami. San Juan tried but failed.
And doubt that’s changing anytime soon...
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Old 02-28-2019, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Middle of the Pacific Ocean
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Jamaica seems to have more of a cultural influence in terms of music, food, and (tying it all together), immigration. That it is in the tropics does not hurt either. And, also importantly, Jamaica was a pioneer within the Caribbean in taking advantage of the above and marketing itself as a tropical paradise.
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Old 02-28-2019, 05:25 PM
 
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And doubt that’s changing anytime soon...


No SJU missed the boat and it has nothing to do with a ferocious person called Maria. From the minute that AA shut down its hub and reduced Eagle that was on the wall.
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Old 02-28-2019, 05:28 PM
 
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Jamaica seems to have more of a cultural influence in terms of music, food, and (tying it all together), immigration. That it is in the tropics does not hurt either. And, also importantly, Jamaica was a pioneer within the Caribbean in taking advantage of the above and marketing itself as a tropical paradise.




Actually tourism is an industry that Caribbean countries only pursue if the alternatives are limited. Trinidad was an energy/industrial center so saw no need for this. Jamaica needed tourism so pushed it. That, plus the much larger Jamaican populations in North America and the UK explain its greater popularity.


Remember steel pan and limbo are quite well known and these originated in Trinidad, as did that "Rum & Coca Cola" song from decades back.
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