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Old 02-25-2019, 09:17 PM
 
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I´d venture to say though that Panamá is none too developed culturally. Pretty anti-intellectual place, even if foreign investment has appeared to have built it up. I have not been back to CR since 2010, so times change. Is the drug trade heating up there?
Hmmm I will have to ask this remark to the thousands and thousands of Colombians who live here and think different.
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Old 02-25-2019, 10:35 PM
 
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Around 1990, there were occasional incidents involving visiting language students around that area, and foreigners were warned not go go outside Antigua or other town limits.

I would consider to be relatively safe anywhere south of Brazil and Ecuador, including most of Peru, but maybe not Lima or the Amazonian frontier. Bolivia is a civilly safe country but now seems to be in political turmoil..


I've heard that Nicaragua may be the safest in CA. I'd watch my back in Costa Rica.

Ignore murder rates, murderers kill their acquaintances and associates, not strangers.
Just avoid murderers, which is not that hard to do. Nothing good happens after midnight, in any country.
Says somebody from the Phillipines, a very violent and unsafe place.

In an area with armed violence, someone simply walking by can be shot when gangsters are fighting each other. Innocent people get killed all the time, accidently. This is of course not counting armed robberies.
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Old 02-25-2019, 10:39 PM
 
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I've been hearing that, depending on country, American expats who move to Latin America do best in places where other expats live and often in gated communities or semi-fortified dwellings. Home invasions and possibly in-home beatings, murders, or just being tied up have been happening in Mexico (areas outside of San Miguel de Allende and in/near Lake Chapala), Costa Rica, and Panama. I imagine it is the same in Ecuador and Colombia, other "hot spots" for American expats. Foreigners who are most at risk are those who locals judge to have money and who venture out on their own into their country of adoption away from security measures put in place where other foreigners congregate.

If you are American (look and sound different, basically a foreigner) and locals perceive that you are wealthy, are there any places in Latin America where one could live on a small rancho among the locals with minimum security without fear of being robbed or killed?
Uruguay, Argentina, Chile, Costa Rica, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Bolivia.
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Old 02-26-2019, 03:09 AM
 
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One thing I don't get is Ecuador's apparently regular vote as best country to retire. (for Americans) I didn't find it the worst, but far removed from the best. Begs the question, ' Whose interests are being served, constantly claiming this country as the prime destination for retirees?.


I found Uruguay and Chile (especially Down South, Lake District, but Patagonia, Although remote and chilly fine as well)
Next up would be Argentina, but hard pressed to think of another place, longer term. Like Brazil, but no getting over it is dangerous. Not just Rio either.. was in Salvador for the carnival and great place, but wits really needed.


Peru hardly the place, Panama, way over rated, at least Panama City is. Costa Rico has increasing crime, cost of living and a number of disgruntled ex pats.


No idea about Bolivia, Paraguay or rest of Central America .
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Old 02-26-2019, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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In an area with armed violence, someone simply walking by can be shot when gangsters are fighting each other. Innocent people get killed all the time, accidently.
They also get killed deliberately if they fight back during a robbery or if they don't want to turn over their wallet and jewlery to the thieves.
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Uruguay, Argentina, Chile, Costa Rica, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Bolivia.
Even Peru is probably less safe than the OP would like to see. There's a substantial amount of street crime there.
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One thing I don't get is Ecuador's apparently regular vote as best country to retire. (for Americans) I didn't find it the worst, but far removed from the best. Begs the question, ' Whose interests are being served, constantly claiming this country as the prime destination for retirees?.
What happens is these countries will intiate a publicity campaign when they're trying to attract dollars, and they'll make things sound really great, and there'll be a bunch of expat retirees who believe the hype and don't bother doing their research, and they'll move there and find out it's not as advertised.
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No idea about Bolivia, Paraguay or rest of Central America .
Extreme caution for Central America. A lot of crime, lack of infrastructure, lot of corruption.
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Old 02-26-2019, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Pereira, Colombia
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I wouldn´t want to retire in Quito or Guayaquil, but Cuenca is full of retirees who seem to really like it. Less on the radar but growing in importance are little beach towns like Olon.

It of course depends on the preference of said retiree...cold mountains or hot beach? People need to pick their preferred climate, and understand that in that part of the world, the only variation in "seasons" is whether it´s raining a lot or a little.
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Old 02-27-2019, 10:30 AM
 
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I checked online and costa Rica was the best country in central america as far as safety goes. Chile best in south america.

easy google.

Btw, Santiago de Chile lower crime rate than most american cities.
https://www.mylatinlife.com/blog/201...-latin-america
https://traveltips.usatoday.com/safe...ica-35901.html

I'd say Countries (like chile, Canada, the eu) taking on immigrants from third world like Haiti, colombia might end up with an elevated crime rate.

4k amazing drone imagery:
SAN JUAN, COSTA RICA
https://youtu.be/36U8-j2WuuQ

SANTIAGO, CHILE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA3tOpC5BU4

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Old 02-27-2019, 02:53 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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Amazing drone footage of San Jose? Really? I'm unimpressed. Looks like Cucuta to me, Colombia's 7th/8th city.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzRi-ZoZpxI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLlp3F_so-o
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Old 02-28-2019, 07:21 AM
 
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I checked online and costa Rica was the best country in central america as far as safety goes. Chile best in south america.

easy google.

Btw, Santiago de Chile lower crime rate than most american cities.
https://www.mylatinlife.com/blog/201...-latin-america
https://traveltips.usatoday.com/safe...ica-35901.html

I'd say Countries (like chile, Canada, the eu) taking on immigrants from third world like Haiti, colombia might end up with an elevated crime rate.

4k amazing drone imagery:
SAN JUAN, COSTA RICA
https://youtu.be/36U8-j2WuuQ

SANTIAGO, CHILE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA3tOpC5BU4
immigrants have lower crime rate than locals in the US, so that theory makes no sense
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Old 02-28-2019, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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immigrants have lower crime rate than locals in the US, so that theory makes no sense
Of course. 99.999% of them are not criminals in their home countries. Why would they be criminals here? Indeed, when they come here they want to avoid getting in trouble because they don't want to jeapordize their stable and economically better lives.
@pueblofuerte: youtube is just full of people posting slick videos claiming this and that, which with a little digging turns out to be total lies.
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