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Old 02-13-2019, 01:22 PM
 
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Do the countries in Latin America have rivalries over who grows the best coffee?
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Old 02-13-2019, 03:10 PM
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I wouldn’t say its a rivalry, but generally if a country produces its own coffee the locals will prefer their main national brand above the rest.

On an international level there is a recognition for Colombian coffee. While Colombia produces much of its own coffee beans and has some of the highest quality, they also import coffee beans from other countries and it all gets sold as ‘Colombian coffee’ in the international markets. The international markets are willing to pay a premium when the label says “Colombian coffee.”
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Old 02-13-2019, 03:40 PM
 
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Do Chile and Argentina grow coffee, or is the climate too cool in those countries?
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Old 02-13-2019, 09:10 PM
 
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No coffee growing in Chile. Argentina has a small tropical climate zone in the northeast, but it is low elevation and not a coffee area as far as I remember. Most coffee growing areas are at higher elevations (1000 meters or more above sea level) in the tropical zones with abundant rainfall and stable year round temperatures. The daily high and low temperatures typically stay in a pretty narrow range, without a lot of seasonal variation either.

Southern Mexico, all the Central American countries, Colombia, Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia and Brazil have coffee growing regions at higher elevations, not in the hot coastal zones. Venezuela probably does, or did, before everything went downhill there, but I have never tried or seen coffee beans that originated there.
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Old 02-13-2019, 09:22 PM
 
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No coffee growing in Chile. Argentina has a small tropical climate zone in the northeast, but it is low elevation and not a coffee area as far as I remember. Most coffee growing areas are at higher elevations (1000 meters or more above sea level) in the tropical zones with abundant rainfall and stable year round temperatures. The daily high and low temperatures typically stay in a pretty narrow range, without a lot of seasonal variation either.

Southern Mexico, all the Central American countries, Colombia, Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia and Brazil have coffee growing regions at higher elevations, not in the hot coastal zones. Venezuela probably does, or did, before everything went downhill there, but I have never tried or seen coffee beans that originated there.
That sounds about right. I have never seen Venezuelan coffee but my wife recently bought some Dominican cofffee. I have also seen some Jamaican Bluemountain coffee before. The most popular by far is Colombian and to a lesser extant Costa Rican. I see Guatemalan coffee at the store every now and then.

I have never heard of a coffee rivalry.
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Old 02-13-2019, 10:05 PM
 
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Has anyone tried coffee from Cuban-grown beans?
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:34 AM
 
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No. Colombian coffee is way superior. They can't compete.
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Old 02-14-2019, 09:21 AM
 
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No. Colombian coffee is way superior. They can't compete.
Oh please! Says who?

That's like saying French wine is superior and no-one else can compete. Load of bolllocks.
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Old 02-14-2019, 10:17 AM
 
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Colombia has the name for sure. Itīs the unrivaled boss of the CONVENTIONAL coffee scene. However, names like Jamaican Blue Mountain, Kona, and Kopi Luwak get the attention of true premium connoseiurs. Many Latin American countries such as Guatemala and Costa Rica also put out "craft" brands that go for higher prices as well.

Like AnotonioR pointed out, it seems crazy but many companies like Folgers for example can legally get away with having their labels read "100% Colombian" when in fact that batch only has to be 51% Colombian and the rest could be from Brazil, Vietnam, etc. Colombian coffee farmers arenīt doing nearly as well as they once were, and this is a byproduct of their own high quality standards. The thing is, by law all of the coffee "berries" must have matured enough to have a red or yellow color, which lessens their caffeine but greatly improves their flavor, that is to say they taste much less bitter than the green berries. Coffee must be harvested by hand in Colombia, and while many Venezuelans have willingly taken up the call as of late, using farm machinery clearly is cheaper in the long run. The green berries however have much more caffeine, and letīs face it, most people buy coffee to wake up. Countries like Brazil and Vietnam harvest all the berries mechanically, and many of them are green (unripened)...they may taste bitter as hell, but when mixed with the smooth Colombian variety, they pass for your standard brew of coffee on the market today.
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Old 02-14-2019, 12:29 PM
 
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Colombia has the name for sure. Itīs the unrivaled boss of the CONVENTIONAL coffee scene. However, names like Jamaican Blue Mountain, Kona, and Kopi Luwak get the attention of true premium connoseiurs. Many Latin American countries such as Guatemala and Costa Rica also put out "craft" brands that go for higher prices as well.

Like AnotonioR pointed out, it seems crazy but many companies like Folgers for example can legally get away with having their labels read "100% Colombian" when in fact that batch only has to be 51% Colombian and the rest could be from Brazil, Vietnam, etc. Colombian coffee farmers arenīt doing nearly as well as they once were, and this is a byproduct of their own high quality standards. The thing is, by law all of the coffee "berries" must have matured enough to have a red or yellow color, which lessens their caffeine but greatly improves their flavor, that is to say they taste much less bitter than the green berries. Coffee must be harvested by hand in Colombia, and while many Venezuelans have willingly taken up the call as of late, using farm machinery clearly is cheaper in the long run. The green berries however have much more caffeine, and letīs face it, most people buy coffee to wake up. Countries like Brazil and Vietnam harvest all the berries mechanically, and many of them are green (unripened)...they may taste bitter as hell, but when mixed with the smooth Colombian variety, they pass for your standard brew of coffee on the market today.
And the beans in mass-produced coffees like Folgers are the inferior-tasting robusta, not arabica. Even if they are from Colombia.
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