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Old 02-22-2019, 01:28 PM
 
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100% fact. It's actually crazy that people are trying to pretend that "hispanic" always existed. LOL

Americans literally never heard of a "hispanic" minority group before then. In places where people of Spanish origin were common, like Texas, no one had ever heard of a "hispanic". There was no concept of that at all.

My own family never heard of a "hipanic" until the late 1980s. Plenty of people are still living to talk about this. Idiots are claiming that it always existed lol.




There was some historical use of the word "hispanic" but it was rare and didn't mean the same thing. that your family lived in isolation and disconnected from the culture does not mean that the culture didnt exist. There was no such thing as a "hispanic" minority group. No concept of that.



No, a Mexican American woman named Grace Flores Hugues chose the term. She brags about it today.
America is not the world, the term was used in latam/spain for centuries and meant exactly that means today.

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Old 02-22-2019, 01:32 PM
 
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America is not the world, the term was used in latam/spain for centuries and meant exactly that means today.
No it did not!

The U.S term "Hispanic" as it was coined in the 70s, meant that people of Spanish origin are a non-white minority group!

That is not how Spanish people or Latin Americans EVER used the term historically. Spanish people and Latin Americans see themselves as white! And that is what they were historically considered to be in the United States before the "hispanic" category was introduced in the 80s.

"hispanic" was a completely new concept.
 
Old 02-22-2019, 01:39 PM
 
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No it did not!

The U.S term "Hispanic" as it was coined in the 70s, meant that people of Spanish origin are a non-white minority group!

That is not how Spanish people or Latin Americans EVER used the term historically. Spanish people and Latin Americans see themselves as white! And that is what they were historically considered to be in the United States before the "hispanic" category was introduced in the 80s.

"hispanic" was a completely new concept.
you cant be more wrong, and we already talked about this and you dint bring any evidence to support your claim.
Dude we even have a hispanic-american anthem, written in 1930s about the the unity of the Hispanics ! jajajaja


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Old 02-22-2019, 01:53 PM
 
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in Latin america we prefer to sign the pan american anthem in school.
was first composed in 1902 in Argentina, has been used for over 100 years.
but dont let facts get on your way....we Hispanics have never considered ourselves to have anything in common jajajajajajaja



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDleQxFOP3Q
 
Old 02-22-2019, 01:54 PM
 
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Since the 2014 book "Making Hispanics" came out, thoroughly exposing it as a purely political fabrication, more mainstream people are finally acknowledging that this happened:


The invention of Hispanics


How the Census Bureau Invented "Hispanic"


Creating race: How the 'Hispanic or Latino' category came to be

Hispanic and Latino Identity Is Changing
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Forty years ago, that term — “Hispanic” — was proposed to group people of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban and other Latin American ancestry in government statistics. No one had even heard of “Latino” back then.
And we got idiots talking about "It's always existed for 500 years!", LOL. Nope, no one ever heard of that even 40 years ago. It wasn't an ethnic concept that existed.

It must be tough to find out that your whole identity was politically fabricated in the 1970s by bureaucrats, but it was. LOL.
 
Old 02-22-2019, 02:01 PM
 
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Since the 2014 book "Making Hispanics" came out, thoroughly exposing it as a purely political fabrication, more mainstream people are finally acknowledging that this happened:


The invention of Hispanics


How the Census Bureau Invented "Hispanic"


Creating race: How the 'Hispanic or Latino' category came to be

Hispanic and Latino Identity Is Changing


And we got idiots talking about "It's always existed for 500 years!", LOL. Nope, no one ever heard of that even 40 years ago. It wasn't an ethnic concept that existed.

It must be tough to find out that your whole identity was politically fabricated in the 1970s by bureaucrats, but it was. LOL.
are you retarded? you as a bunch of rural farmers about a word and think the other 300 million never heard of it?

no one heard of it. but they just named hundred of institutions, made anthems, flags, made continent wide conventions, but no one ever heard of the term jajajajajaja

in the middle of the desert where your family is from no one heard the term, thats for sure.
 
Old 02-22-2019, 02:13 PM
 
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Pope Francis’s parents migrated from Italy, and Don Francisco’s came from Germany.
In this case, I would say neither of them are "Hispanic."

The history of the word doesn't much matter. What matters is the need for a term to describe people who are descended from Spanish conquistadors/colonialists, and the word "Hispanic" is as good as any for that.

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Old 02-22-2019, 02:22 PM
 
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They don't identify with "hispanic" but they definitely identify with "latino"

In this case, I would say neither of them are "Hispanic."

The history of the word doesn't much matter. What matters is the need for a term to describe people who are descended from Spanish conquistadors/colonialists, and the word "Hispanic" is as good as any for that.
True, The term Latino is wider and preferred in latam than Hispanic, as Hispanic is not pan-american as it would exclude Brazil.

Latino is a very old term too, coined by Napoleon during the post revolutionary era.
 
Old 02-22-2019, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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You're lying. All countries have racial categories. I'm Black. People in Spain call me negro or moreno. It's fine, I'm obviously not a white guy and I live in Spain.
People in Latin America also will use those type of terms to refer to you, and (in Colombia at least) they do it without any sort of racism whatsoever.

Mexico is kind of a different matter on that, but I won't get into that here.
Where are you at in Spain? I like Spain quite a lot. I've got a very good friend of mine who lives in Valencia.

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Old 02-22-2019, 02:26 PM
 
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Since the 2014 book "Making Hispanics" came out, thoroughly exposing it as a purely political fabrication, more mainstream people are finally acknowledging that this happened:


The invention of Hispanics


How the Census Bureau Invented "Hispanic"


Creating race: How the 'Hispanic or Latino' category came to be

Hispanic and Latino Identity Is Changing


And we got idiots talking about "It's always existed for 500 years!", LOL. Nope, no one ever heard of that even 40 years ago. It wasn't an ethnic concept that existed.

It must be tough to find out that your whole identity was politically fabricated in the 1970s by bureaucrats, but it was. LOL.
Soooo this building, built in 1904 is just a product of our collective imagination right?
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