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Old 08-20-2019, 07:47 AM
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A new show is hitting (or has hit) the ABC channel in the United States. It’s called “Mixed-ish” and as its usual for American shows, it will be dubbed in other languages and shown in other countries too, Latin America included.

According to the description it says:

“In “mixed-ish,” Rainbow Johnson recounts her experience growing up in a mixed-race family in the ‘80s and the constant dilemmas they had to face over whether to assimilate or stay true to themselves. Bow’s parents Paul and Alicia decide to move from a hippie commune to the suburbs to better provide for their family. As her parents struggle with the challenges of their new life, Bow and her siblings navigate a mainstream school in which they’re perceived as neither black nor white. This family’s experiences illuminate the challenges of finding one’s own identity when the rest of the world can’t decide where you belong.”

Eventually Baby Boomers will have less effect on the American identity aspect, particularly the One-Drop-Rule, and people will increasingly, more than today, decide for themselves their own identities instead what a certain group wants to pigeon hole them.

Very interesting since as time goes on more programs like this are put on the air, this one with a name that doesn’t leave much for speculation. Sign of the changing times in the USA.



A few years ago these documentaries (I think that’s what they are) was also made in the USA.







Little by little things are definitely changing in the USA. The question is what effect will it have in the rest of the continent, particularly in Latin America.

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Old 08-20-2019, 10:37 AM
 
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Little by little things are definitely changing in the USA. The question is what effect will it have in the rest of the continent, particularly in Latin America.
"Mixed" people have always been part of the Latin American identity. I think the biggest changes will be in color-ism, which thankfully is something more and more of the younger generation are being aware of.

I'm ready for anyone born before 1980, to step out of the way. The fact this is something some people have a hard time accepting is bothersome.
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Old 08-20-2019, 12:01 PM
 
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This shows that while some Americans of Latino ancestry are adopting to the original American racial view (including the One drop rule). American society is lightly conforming to Latino views as well (ie Mixed is not black, but a separate race all its own), this is mainly because of big Dominican/Puerto Rican influence especially in the eastcoast, as people who are mixed American black and American white usually just identify as "black".
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Old 08-20-2019, 12:39 PM
 
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This shows that while some Americans of Latino ancestry are adopting to the original American racial view (including the One drop rule). American society is lightly conforming to Latino views as well (ie Mixed is not black, but a separate race all its own), this is mainly because of big Dominican/Puerto Rican influence especially in the eastcoast, as people who are mixed American black and American white usually just identify as "black".
Exactly, this kind of shows would not exit if the standard notion that mixed is black was not being challenged.
the notion the show is exctly that.
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Old 09-02-2019, 05:11 AM
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It's widely known that Americans in general don't have a good grasp on the racial reality of mixed people, especially with people that have significant European and African DNA. Usually what an American will consider mixed race is really someone that is overwhelmingly of European descent, say at least 70% European though most Americans erroneously think these people are closer to 50% European and 50% African. If a person want to really look at mixed people closer to a 50/50 proportion, a focus on what most people look like in areas where this type mixture is the norm will be telling (taking into account that the population isn't geographically even in most countries and that there are other aspects in the mix that isn't 'normal' elsewhere and affects how people look in general). Recent DNA testing and published research will identify these areas. In fact, anyone can see the genetic average not just of various nationalities in Latin America, but also of the traditional white and black groups in the USA. Its one of the major reason people that are aware of this disparity between perceived and reality don't take Americans serious when it comes to this, especially when the focus is on people that are not considered white in the USA.

Its another reason why American people that think of themselves as closer to 50/50 mix are surprised when their DNA testing result show a mostly European ancestry and others see significant mixtures when they thought their result was going to be overwhelmingly African. In the USA couples that are thought to be one person mainly European and the other overwhelmingly African in reality is a couple that both might be mostly European or the overwhelmingly African person is really closer to an even mix.

In fact, a person can tell by listening someone else from the USA talk about some other topic and in the process make this type of reference. It's like all east Asians (Chinese, Korean, Japanese, etc) all look the same. If you think so, then OK; but, that isn't reality. Not only someone from those socities will be able to, on average, tell the physical differences, but a non-native person that is well acquainted with any or all of those societies will also tell them apart on looks alone. The other option is to outright lie, which very quickly becomes evident too.

Reminds me of the indians of Spanish America. Sure, all are the same and can be generically called 'indians' until reality stares right back, in many cases quite literally. Suddenly it becomes evident that 'indians' don't all look the same and these are full blooded or near full blooded 'indians,' not mixed people (or much worse, people that are overwhelmingly European).

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Old 09-03-2019, 06:30 PM
 
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To be technical, the "black" parent in Mixed-ish is actually mixed also, (she does not look like someone from Burkina Faso).
Younger mixed people are challenging the "One Drop Rule"...But where this will become "messy" is in terms of policy and Civil
Rights and applying anti-discrimination laws, allocation of funds etc. who then is "black" ? One older AA said they are trying to
dissolve the black race in the United States (she is used to the ODR).

We AAs always knew we were mixed in this country, but we knew law and social custom was designed to contain us as
"black" because as Malcolm X explained in Ghana to an African who asked him "Why do you call yourself black when you look
mostly white he said because "White Americans NEVER forget to OVERLOOK the African heritage.

Thus you had ODR non-sense such as "passing" as white. (See movie "Imitation of Life") No such thing as "passing as white"
that person is White. It is good that people are coming around to reality. The Latin/Caribbean racial system is more realistic
in that they say mixed is mixed, where I had a issue is the partial toward European standards of beauty.

It will be interesting to see how this all irons out in the United States since this is coming around to reality.
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Old 09-06-2019, 07:44 PM
 
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Little by little things are definitely changing in the USA. The question is what effect will it have in the rest of the continent, particularly in Latin America.
I think the United States will slowly evolve into just a heavily diverse nation instead of just an anglo majority nation like it has been.
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Old 09-08-2019, 07:24 AM
 
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I think the United States will slowly evolve into just a heavily diverse nation instead of just an anglo majority nation like it has been.
This has been the plan since the 1960's. Look at the Immigration & Naturalization Act of 1965.
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Old 09-09-2019, 09:38 AM
 
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This has been the plan since the 1960's. Look at the Immigration & Naturalization Act of 1965.
this is just the natural course of things, things will go better if managed properly.
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Old 09-11-2019, 02:14 PM
 
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I think it will be great. Americans will become a mixed-race/ethnicity country. It won't be as easy to point out "this is an American" by skin color or facial features alone. America went from majority white with a small disenfranchised black population to what it will be in the future - a white, latino, black with some bit of "others" (Asians, etc) mix. As people intermarry it will become the new norm. Just like people don't actually care about the different parts of Europe you are from, people will care less about skin colors when it isn't a big source differentiation as it is now. Probably larger macro elements like the ability to speak English or American ideals will become a more unifying force. They will have to be when so many different types of people are citizens. This certainly is different from pretty much every country that is far more racially/ethnically homogenous. Probably only Brazil is like us in this regard.
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