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Old 12-20-2011, 09:38 AM
 
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I've noticed the majority of young people who do return do so pretty quickly. After growing up in Alaska, they can't hack it Outside where expectations are different and higher. If they were willing to stick it out longer, those with at least average intelligence would learn to adjust after losing a couple of jobs. They'd step-it-up versus feeling overwhelmed, but most are quickly homesick for what they know and high tail it back to Alaska.

Like you said, the more capable don't return, except for a very few who want to take over family businesses or practice medicine or something, but they are a minority.
This is interesting and I've seen it happen in my village time after time.

But fair amount of them do manage to leave. SE has strong cultural ties to the Seattle and BC area through tribal and family ties, so the young people who do move down there have a sort of built in support system.

And I'll admit to being worried at one time about my own son, that he would grow up too provincial even though he wasn't exclusively raised in rural AK and experienced a pretty good amount of travel as a child. And there was part of me that was afraid he'd get out into the big bad world and leave AK behind, and he did exactly that.

What I've noticed to is that a lot of adults who decide to move out return after the lower 48 just didn't work out for them in one way or another. I notice it in myself because I go back and forth all the time.
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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My, what narrow thinking you employ. Imagine, if you can, a world where people are not quite that simple minded. But then, you will fit in when you get back just fine, won't you? Thank you for living up to the stereotype.
**yawn** The OP's post, and your's, were simply excuses to spew some venom at conservatives. I call a spade a spade and you don't like it.
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:24 AM
 
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The old cliché is that people who move to Alaska (from distant places) are either wacky, desperate for money, or running from something; since who would want to put up with such miserable weather.

One gets the image of Alaska as being full of people who subscribe to pseudo-legal theories like "Freeman on the land," or want to make cash in extractive industries like oil, mining and fishing. A general crassness is the impression I get from many miles away, but I'm only going off what I've watched and read elsewhere.

Is there any hard data on personality types up there? I'm also going off the fact that a Creationist know-nothing like Sarah Palin landed its highest office (then again, so did Bush II). Alaska also apparently has a high share of global warming deniers, even though it's suffering most of the early consequences. Are people really that stubbornly stupid up there?

In a city like Anchorage, if someone is intelligent and respects nature as something more than a resource-warehouse, do they find themselves at odds with the typical Joe or Joan on the street?
Well isn't everyone that lives in California gay, has tons of plastic surgeries, lives in a 5million dollar beach house and is shallow....showing interest in key topics like wars and the environment as long as it's trendy.
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Anchorage
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I don't think people who were raised here come back to Alaska because we can't hack it. I missed the scenery of Alaska and the feeling I used to have living here-the sense of uniqueness. Otherwise things are the same-it's not like life is harder in the lower 48....it's harder here in many ways. But Alaska is my home.
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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Well isn't everyone that lives in California gay, has tons of plastic surgeries, lives in a 5million dollar beach house and is shallow....showing interest in key topics like wars and the environment as long as it's trendy.
And don't forget, they use toilet paper like everybody else because it comes from a store.
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:50 PM
 
Location: interior Alaska
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I have limited experience with Alaska, was only there once, but from what I saw, and what others saw, the further you get away from anchorage the more you get the two dichotomies of rut-wing nut-jobs and hippies. In Anchorage it's mostly normal people, hence the 50%.
Thanks for sharing your vast experience.
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Point Hope Alaska
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The further out you go.. people need their rifles to get food... The don't want THOSE RIGHTS TAKEN AWAY. That makes them A hunter not a nut !!
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:03 AM
 
Location: Dangling from a mooses antlers
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I'd like more right wing nuts to come up and join us. Especially those that are pro-development, pro-job and pro-life.....We need jobs.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:52 AM
 
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The old cliché is that people who move to Alaska (from distant places) are either wacky, desperate for money, or running from something; since who would want to put up with such miserable weather.

One gets the image of Alaska as being full of people who subscribe to pseudo-legal theories like "Freeman on the land," or want to make cash in extractive industries like oil, mining and fishing. A general crassness is the impression I get from many miles away, but I'm only going off what I've watched and read elsewhere.

Is there any hard data on personality types up there? I'm also going off the fact that a Creationist know-nothing like Sarah Palin landed its highest office (then again, so did Bush II). Alaska also apparently has a high share of global warming deniers, even though it's suffering most of the early consequences. Are people really that stubbornly stupid up there?

In a city like Anchorage, if someone is intelligent and respects nature as something more than a resource-warehouse, do they find themselves at odds with the typical Joe or Joan on the street?
You are best to stay in kalifornia, home of the liberals, tree huggers an gays. You liberals move to Alaska and want to change it like your Communist state. Do Alaskans a favor and move to Mexico .
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:57 AM
 
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From my outsider perspective there are 3 main types of people in Alaska:gt
1) Right ring nutjobs - 30%
2) Hippies - 20%
3) Relatively normal people - 50%
You forgot the liberal category from which you belong to.
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