Ann Arbor strikes again!!!!! (Lansing, Howell: how much, house, bankrupt)

[RATT]

Yes!!!
you beautiful people of A2,you have one more reason to be proud and feel lucky to be living in a hip town,that as everything going for it.
Ann Arbor is one of the 10 best college towns for 2010:
Best College Towns: Ann Arbor, Michigan - Bing Travel (http://www.bing.com/travel/content/search?q=Best+College+Towns%3a+Ann+Arbor%2c+Michig an&FORM=RQTRAV - broken link)

[danielj72]

Ann Arbor is a nice town, clean and mostly safe. Its a nice place to visit every once in a while. My biggest issue with it is the amount of liberalism/socialism there. Ann Arbor is really nothing like Michigan, more like a part of New England that broke off and floated far to the west. The town is full of foriegn cars, full of "socially concious" people, full of left wing protest and causes. The average citizen of Ann Arbor has never hunted deer or turkey, may have never been fishing, heck they may not even believe in eating meat. How many citizens of Ann Arbor have ever owned and f-150 and driven it up a two track? How many of them have ever left the coffee house to just step foot in the woods? Does this sound like Michigan??? Ann Arbor is a great little New England town that just got trapped in the upper midwest.

[michmoldman]

Go blue!

[scolls]

Originally Posted by danielj72

Ann Arbor is a nice town, clean and mostly safe. Its a nice place to visit every once in a while. My biggest issue with it is the amount of liberalism/socialism there. Ann Arbor is really nothing like Michigan, more like a part of New England that broke off and floated far to the west. The town is full of foriegn cars, full of "socially concious" people, full of left wing protest and causes. The average citizen of Ann Arbor has never hunted deer or turkey, may have never been fishing, heck they may not even believe in eating meat. How many citizens of Ann Arbor have ever owned and f-150 and driven it up a two track? How many of them have ever left the coffee house to just step foot in the woods? Does this sound like Michigan??? Ann Arbor is a great little New England town that just got trapped in the upper midwest.

What is your point? People who drive F150's and go up north are better? Funny how the most liberal city and you put it "socialism" is Michigan's most prosperous city.

[michigan83]

What is your point? People who drive F150's and go up north are better? Funny how the most liberal city and you put it "socialism" is Michigan's most prosperous city.

I'm not sure if Ann Arbor is Michigan's "most prosperous" city because of liberalism.

Most of the prosperity in Ann Arbor comes from University and government jobs. The problem with this type of "prosperity" is that it's tough to pinpoint where the dollars come from. Most of the money in Ann Arbor exists as a result of taxpayers, tuition money, and donor money (donor money wouldn't exist without taxpayers).

What I'm trying to say is that the success in Ann Arbor is due to a great public university that couldn't exist without tax money. You can thank the entire hickish, backwards state of Michigan for supporting Ann Arbor through tax dollars and making it a success.

[scolls]

Originally Posted by michigan83

I'm not sure if Ann Arbor is Michigan's "most prosperous" city because of liberalism.

Most of the prosperity in Ann Arbor comes from University and government jobs. The problem with this type of "prosperity" is that it's tough to pinpoint where the dollars come from. Most of the money in Ann Arbor exists as a result of taxpayers, tuition money, and donor money (donor money wouldn't exist without taxpayers and tuition).

What I'm trying to say is that the success in Ann Arbor is due to a great public university that couldn't exist without tax money. You can thank the entire hickish, backwards state of Michigan for supporting Ann Arbor through tax dollars and making it a success.

Well gee me as a city folk, my tax dollars pay for the parks and recreation areas that the conservative F150 drivers go to.

[RATT]

Originally Posted by danielj72

Ann Arbor is a nice town, clean and mostly safe. Its a nice place to visit every once in a while. My biggest issue with it is the amount of liberalism/socialism there. Ann Arbor is really nothing like Michigan, more like a part of New England that broke off and floated far to the west. The town is full of foriegn cars, full of "socially concious" people, full of left wing protest and causes. Does this sound like Michigan???

Why is that a bad thing old chum?

Originally Posted by michigan83

I'm not sure if Ann Arbor is Michigan's "most prosperous" city because of liberalism.

Most of the money in Ann Arbor exists as a result of taxpayers, tuition money, and donor money (donor money wouldn't exist without taxpayers).

What I'm trying to say is that the success in Ann Arbor is due to a great public university that couldn't exist without tax money. You can thank the entire hickish, backwards state of Michigan for supporting Ann Arbor through tax dollars and making it a success.

Ridiculous,
You are destroying your tax payer right wing bull crap argument by not understanding that the top tier of the tax base of Michigan emanate out of it's MOST PROSPEROUS,HIGHLY SKILLED AND EDUCATED city i.e A2!!
You and your "entire,hickish,backwards state of Michigan"should be grateful for this great liberal oasis called Ann Arbor for being the life line that kept Michigan from going totally bankrupt."One most give to Caesar what belongs to Caeser"
Remember i do not have a "dog in this race",i am Canadian that is stock in the anti-English sh*thole of Montreal

[michigan83]

Ridiculous,
You are destroying your tax payer right wing bull crap argument by not understanding that the top tier of the tax base of Michigan emanate out of it's MOST PROSPEROUS,HIGHLY SKILLED AND EDUCATED city i.e A2!!

Ummm...

If a person's salary is largely paid through tax dollars, it doesn't really matter how much the person "supports the tax base". The money still came from tax payers in the first place!! Same thing with the University itself. If U of M uses taxpayer money to contribute to the tax base... it's recycled money. There is no "money tree." Sheesh. It seems simple to me. Am I missing something here?

The one obvious benefit that I didn't mention is that U of M does bring in a lot of money from out-of-state. So that's cool. See, I'm level headed. I can see all sides of every issue.

[canudigit]

AA is a bastion of liberalism for the most part, but the beauty of it is, it is also surrounded my quaint small towns that still retain their all-American, traditional values for the most part. As such, you can have the best of both worlds: AA for the liberal crowd, and the surrounding towns for the more traditional folk such as myself. Believe me, if you visit Chelsea, Howell, Dexter, Saline, or Dundee, just to name a few, you would have no idea that you were within 20 minutes of Berkeley East.

[scolls]

So how come Lansing isn't as prosperous as Ann Arbor? Not only do they have Michigan State, but you know the whole capital thing.