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Old 09-13-2010, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jen1985 View Post
I will have to put down bermuda seeds next spring.
I'd skip the rye this year then, concentrate on getting the yard cleaned up from weeds, then do the bermuda in the spring (the bermuda will do a much better job of choking out any remaining weeds), and overseed the rye next October. But, that's just me.
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Old 09-16-2010, 12:06 AM
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Here's what I do every October (usually around the first to middle part of the month depending on how hot it still is):

* Use a dethatcher to rid the lawn of any weeds or summer grasses, or in some cases, the dead rye from the previous winter.
* Apply rye grass seed using a seed spreader. It's always good to go over the lawn several times to make sure a healthy dose of seed is covering it. NOTE: make sure the ground is completely dry before laying seed.
* Use new lawn fertilizer over the seeded area.
* Cover the whole lawn with mulch. I like to use the Miracle Grow brand.
* Water lightly every day, preferably two to three times a day in short durations until the seed starts to germinate. Don't water heavily.

One of the problems with rye grass is the weeds that appear during the late winter & spring, especially if there is a good share of rain. I had this problem last season with clover weeds ... and the thing to do is to water the lawn, then use Scott's "2 in 1Fertilizer/Weed Killer" on the weeds, but don't water for a while after applying.
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Old 09-17-2010, 05:23 PM
Location: Prescott AZ
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Are you putting grass in where there was rock before? Oh brother. I did that in my back yard. Just preparing the ground for the grass seed was a chore. Had to rake all the rocks out. Rototill the hard hard ground. Add some soil to the ground. rake more rocks out. Put some fertilizer in the dirt. Put the grass seed down. (I threw it). Water 4 times a day. Wait for the grass to appear. Throw more grass seed down. Water some more. Then after all of that, you have to mow it every week. Was it worth it?
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Old 10-01-2010, 02:08 PM
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Ok I bought some "weed and crabgrass killer" by Bayer that connects to a garden hose. I was planning on using that around the yard to kill the weeds before I start rototilling.

But my question is, it's suppose to kill weeds.. but after it kills the weeds and I remove them, will it be safe to plant seed? Or will this weed killer stuff make the ground 'toxic'?
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Old 10-01-2010, 02:12 PM
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Also, what would be better to use.. a dethatcher (assuming I can rent one) or a rototiller?

Could I just skip the weed killer and just use a dethatcher?
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Old 10-01-2010, 04:02 PM
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You only use a dethatcher on an existing lawn. In your case use a rototiller. Rototilling down to at least 6 inches is the norm. After cleaning out the rocks and debris then rototill again this time rotilling in soil amendments ie. sand/mulch/humis tilled in makes for a perfect foundation for growing.
If you are rototilling then you do not need to use the weed killer as the rototilling will kill the weeds as it turns the soil.
Use the following site for correct winter rye planting and care.
Winter Rye Grass - Planting Phoenix Winter Grass
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Old 10-02-2010, 12:06 PM
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nitram~ Excellent information! THANK YOU!!
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:13 AM
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@Desertspiritsteve - are you sure the birds won't eat it all, just had winter rye put down yesterday and I look out the window this morning to a lawn full of darn pigeons eating my seed, I've gotten tired of going out and chasing them away as they wait across the street on the roof for 10 minutes then come back. **Heavy Sigh**
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