Why would you be against the Medical Marijuana prop? (Phoenix: transplants, theater)

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by Crackpot

I always thought pharmaceutical companies tried to keep pot legalization away, since people would rather flock to medical marijuana instead of paying up the wazoo for pills. Pharmacies in general will lose money, money that could be used in buying their drugs as opposed to pot.

At work, pharmacists are already complaining about some grim future where people won't have a need for pharmacists as they do now, on top of the people who are going to abuse it just to get high.

99% of what pharmacists do now could be done by minimum wage workers who can count. And most of that could be done by machines.

[jimj]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

99% of what pharmacists do now could be done by minimum wage workers who can count. And most of that could be done by machines.

Really? I think you may need to spend some time in a pharmacy and see what they actually do. Since one of my oldest friends is a pharmacist (not to mention my wife was a pharmacy tech) I've spent a lot of time with him and I'll tell ya I trust a pharmacist more than I trust my doctors!

You've no idea how many times a doc writes a script without even thinking of the possible interactions or side effects that could KILL a person but a good pharmacist will spot it, not to mention the docs that prescribe the WRONG medication or an inferior drug, the pharmacist has to catch it and call the doc suggesting a better or correct one.

There's a whole bunch more than just "counting pills" that goes on and if you think some "minimum wage" stooge can do the job you better hope you get the right prescription/dose in your bottle when you use 'em.

[Dusty Rhodes]

Why would you be against the Medical Marijuana prop


UH........I suddenly turned into a Puritan, or, a Southern Baptist?

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by jimj

Really? I think you may need to spend some time in a pharmacy and see what they actually do. Since one of my oldest friends is a pharmacist (not to mention my wife was a pharmacy tech) I've spent a lot of time with him and I'll tell ya I trust a pharmacist more than I trust my doctors!

You've no idea how many times a doc writes a script without even thinking of the possible interactions or side effects that could KILL a person but a good pharmacist will spot it, not to mention the docs that prescribe the WRONG medication or an inferior drug, the pharmacist has to catch it and call the doc suggesting a better or correct one.

There's a whole bunch more than just "counting pills" that goes on and if you think some "minimum wage" stooge can do the job you better hope you get the right prescription/dose in your bottle when you use 'em.

Nonsense! Computers can do a more reliable job of the things you mention. Pharmacists are about as useful as elevator operators.

[mosesmoses]

Marijuana is a good dewormer for ducks.



ROCHEFORT, France (AFP) - A French duck farmer has been given a one-month suspended sentence and fined 500 euros (680 dollars) after feeding cannabis to his birds, saying it was an excellent dewormer.
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The farmer from the village of Gripperie-Saint-Symphorien on France's Atlantic coast admitted that he smoked some of the drug himself but said most of it was given to his 150 ducks for medicinal purposes.
"There's no better worming substance for them, a specialist advised me to do it," the farmer, Michel Rouyer, said, without being able to identify the specialist in question.
"This is for real, not one (duck) has worms and they're all in excellent health," said Rouyer's lawyer, Jean Piot, in an effort to convince the court.
Police arrested Rouyer after discovering 12 cannabis plants and around five kilos (11 pounds) of the drug in a bag during a visit to his home following a theft.
"It's the first time we've heard something like this," police said.

[Valley Native]

Originally Posted by AnnieA

I agree with every word in this post from a ways back. My son, in his younger years was a heavy pot smoker. It cost him his marriage and family....he was a hard worker but, the pot took his short term memory, his initiative and he would become very paranoid....

Many years later, he got back in the Army reserves and because of the random drug testing, he became cautious enough about it that as he went up through the ranks, he finally quit it. Don't get me wrong, he is a heavy drinker so, apparantly has an addictive personality.

Yeah, but what happens if you have to have public services for your bad habit. Also, you smoke in the privacy of your own home but, get in your car, hit and kill or cripple another person.....?
And, I have read different studies regarding the reaction time of a person on alcohol or weed......

There are age restrictions on alcohol sales to minors but they still manage to get it and kill themselves or someone else on a regular basis.

On a personal level, I agree. On a societal level, however, I say that we just can't keep banning or restricting things that we believe to be "bad" or because we don't like them personally. Lots of perfectly legal substances that we take for granted can be addictive or even deadly. I'm Diabetic, and I could be a serious danger to other motorists (as well as myself) if I eat foods with refined sugar and drive. Same goes for why I don't drink alcoholic beverages.

It all comes down to self control ... and I'm really tired of the do gooders trying to save everybody from themselves, or call for more gov't intervention on these vices. At one time, marijuana was a legal substance. This so called "war on drugs" has caused a significant rise in underground, black market, smuggling type of operations. All these bans or restrictions accomplish very little because people will still obtain them if they want them badly enough.

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

99% of what pharmacists do now could be done by minimum wage workers who can count. And most of that could be done by machines.

Oh, great ... that's all we need are more minimum wage workers. Pharmacies aren't equivalent to fast food places. They are responsible for people's medications, which is serious business. And what if a "machine" (a.k.a. computer system) would go down? Who would you talk to if you need an emergency prescription or advice on medication? Besides, once we start downplaying the role of pharmacists, that can lead to outsourcing. The last thing I'd want is to be dealing with some robotic sounding foreign accented person half way around the world who I can't understand! We have an overload of that as it is with credit card customer service and help desk technical support!

[TonioLarabi]

1. Tabacco-435,000 Deaths
2. Poor Diet-365,000 Deaths
3. Alcohol-85,000 Deaths
4. Microbial Agents-75,000 Death
5. Toxic Agents-55,000
6. Motor Vehicle Crashes-26,347
7. Adverse Reactions to PRESCRIPTION DRUGS-32,000
8. Suicide-30,622
9. Firearms (GUNS)-29,000
.....
13. Marijuana- ZERO DEATHS. No death has ever been recorded from the use of Marijuana.

Alcohol is the third, leading cause of deaths in the United States. There has never been a single person who has died from the use of Marijuana. NEVER, ZERO, ZILCH, NADA!

Why would anybody be against a HARMLESS substance, that helps people with very serious illnesses? Especially when there has NEVER been a single death from the use of Marijuana!

[TonioLarabi]

Aspirin is more dangerous than Marijuana. By contrast, Aspirin, a commonly used, over-the-counter medicine, causes HUNDREDS of deaths each year!

[mosesmoses]

Originally Posted by TonioLarabi

Aspirin is more dangerous than Marijuana. By contrast, Aspirin, a commonly used, over-the-counter medicine, causes HUNDREDS of deaths each year!

Aspirin is legal, tested by the scientific method, and approved by the FDA.
And in my opinion, if marijuana was published, and peer reviewed in the scientific journal, and tested by the scientific method, and approved by the FDA, like all other drugs, marijuana should be also legal in every State for medicinal purposes as an over the counter, or a prescription drug.

[kdog]

Originally Posted by mosesmoses

Aspirin is legal, tested by the scientific method, and approved by the FDA.
And in my opinion, if marijuana was published, and peer reviewed in the scientific journal, and tested by the scientific method, and approved by the FDA, like all other drugs, marijuana should be also legal in every State for medicinal purposes as an over the counter, or a prescription drug.

It's a plant for heavens sake, not unlike coffee which is also a plant. And caffeine is often prescribed as a migraine medication. Did it go through FDA approval as well?