Blanket Easement Requirement (Maricopa: power lines, houses, utilities)

[Trump]

Mohave Electric Cooperative, Inc. requires you to sign a blanket easement in order to receive their service. Is this a widespread practice in Arizona?

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by Trump

Mohave Electric Cooperative, Inc. requires you to sign a blanket easement in order to receive their service. Is this a widespread practice in Arizona?

Sounds reasonable (and yes, common). If they provide you service, they need access to maintain.

[Trump]

Originally Posted by Greatday

Sounds reasonable (and yes, common). If they provide you service, they need access to maintain.

The blanket easement that I was referring to is for more than just access to their equipment for maintenance. It gives the utility permission in advance to run power lines anywhere on the property, to a neighboring property for an example.

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by Trump

The blanket easement that I was referring to is for more than just access to their equipment for maintenance. It gives the utility permission in advance to run power lines anywhere on the property, to a neighboring property for an example.

Again, common place and reasonable. Access to adjacent properties is needed. Ask yourself, from where is your electricity coming? For instance, does your service providers lines have to cross other peoples property to get to your property??

[Steve Pickering]

Arizona also has a "Section Line" law and does not allow any "Landlocked" land sales. No one, by state law can prohibit public access on any section line.

I blocked natural gas for years on my Maricopa Property. They would not put the gas line in when I first developed my property even though it was only about 300 feet away. I got a community Propane tank and allowed all new comers to connect. When the community grew to 10 houses they came back and wanted to install gas lines. I told them as long as I owned my property they would never cross it, and they didn't. They finally invoked the Section Line Law and went up along the Reservation to install for the houses north of me, but they neve crossed my land.

[kdog]

Originally Posted by Steve Pickering

I blocked natural gas for years on my Maricopa Property. They would not put the gas line in when I first developed my property even though it was only about 300 feet away. I got a community Propane tank and allowed all new comers to connect. When the community grew to 10 houses they came back and wanted to install gas lines. I told them as long as I owned my property they would never cross it, and they didn't. They finally invoked the Section Line Law and went up along the Reservation to install for the houses north of me, but they neve crossed my land.

I guess you showed them. But why?

[Trump]

Originally Posted by kdog

I guess you showed them. But why?

Those that have experienced the encroachment by utilities know why. Once an easement is obtained you have effectively lost control of your land where the encroachment takes place. Those that are subdivision dwellers or live in the city will most likely not experience the games utilities play in trying to use property without just compensation. Good for you Steve. Glad you were able to keep the gas company at bay.

[kdog]

Originally Posted by Trump

Those that have experienced the encroachment by utilities know why. Once an easement is obtained you have effectively lost control of your land where the encroachment takes place. Those that are subdivision dwellers or live in the city will most likely not experience the games utilities play in trying to use property without just compensation. Good for you Steve. Glad you were able to keep the gas company at bay.

I wasn't asking you, I was asking Steve. For all his efforts, he now has one of the few pieces of land in his area with no gas connection. That can't be good for resale. Plus, instead of having an invisible gas line in the ground, he now gets to have a big propane truck access his property regularly. I'm guessing that's a LOT more often than the gas utility would want to access his property, which is probably never. So it kinds of seems like a "cut off your nose to spite your face scenario".

But please do educate us on the nefarious ways that the utilities abuse the easement. I would really like to know. And it's not like you guys are pioneers or anything. You bought property in areas that have utilities. If you don't like utilities, why not move off-grid?

And I notice you didn't answer Greatday's question. How do you feel about the utility crossing other folks property to get to yours?

[Trump]

Originally Posted by kdog

I wasn't asking you, I was asking Steve. For all his efforts, he now has one of the few pieces of land in his area with no gas connection. That can't be good for resale. Plus, instead of having an invisible gas line in the ground, he now gets to have a big propane truck access his property regularly. I'm guessing that's a LOT more often than the gas utility would want to access his property, which is probably never. So it kinds of seems like a "cut off your nose to spite your face scenario".

But please do educate us on the nefarious ways that the utilities abuse the easement. I would really like to know. And it's not like you guys are pioneers or anything. You bought property in areas that have utilities. If you don't like utilities, why not move off-grid?

And I notice you didn't answer Greatday's question. How do you feel about the utility crossing other folks property to get to yours?

OK, please ignore that portion of my response that you feel is directed toward answering your question.

[observer53]

Originally Posted by Trump

OK, please ignore that portion of my response that you feel is directed toward answering your question.

But you didn't answer the questions that were directed at you, not Steve. I'd be interested in those answers myself.