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Unread 06-29-2011, 09:43 PM
 
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just what do you have against Ash Fork ? did somebody do you bad here . if they did ,then they must be scoundrels and must be punished . expose them here for all to see .
I had these tests done in Ash Fork over 4+ years ago. Since then, I purchased land elsewhere. I don't have a list of where I was in Ash Fork sitting next to me on my desk. Your requests are ridiculous. As I said, these tests were done with an engineer and with a land expert that knows Arizona raw land and has been in the business for 50+ years.

Like I said, it is not rocket science here. Ash Fork sells land for $1k an acre because its Ash Fork. It is not a "secret" area, anyone and everyone who knows about land in AZ, knows about Ash Fork. I am not denying the areas beauty, that is what drew me there to search for land. Upon further investigation, it became apparent that the land was not desirable for me because of the reasons I went into already in other posts.

If you enjoy living there, my hats off to you. That is all that matters, ones happiness. Where we differ is that Ash Fork is NOT good RE for someone looking to be self-sufficient and live in an area that has good RE to build a home & be self sufficient. In AZ water is rule#1. If you need a truck to haul in your water supply for your home, then game over. You might as well live in the city and have city supplied water.

There are pros and cons to an area. Ash Fork's cons outweighed its pros. There are areas in Northern AZ where I can buy land for $8k - $10k an acre and get the same scenery and beauty but without all the cons of Ash Fork. To me it is worth the extra $7k - $9k an acre for that.

 
Unread 06-29-2011, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Scottsdale, AZ
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Like I said, it is not rocket science here.......... If you need a truck to haul in your water supply for your home, then game over.

hauled water is very common and routine in many areas of northern Arizona.....

uh, gee, like you said, it's not rocket science
 
Unread 06-30-2011, 04:38 AM
 
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hauled water is very common and routine in many areas of northern Arizona.....

uh, gee, like you said, it's not rocket science
It depends where. Areas like Prescott, Dewey, Chino Valley, Paulden, Prescott Valley, Mayer, Cordes Junction, Cottonwood, etc., are NOT water haul areas. They have shallow aquifers, most are within 100-400 feet of the ground surface.

If you head out to eastern part of Northern AZ like Pinetop, Strawberry, Payson, the White Mountains, they are NOT water haul communities. Those areas sit on top a large aquifer that is fairly shallow. I believe it is called the C-Aquifer.

Of course sporadic areas of bedrock and difficult geology will cause well drilling issues.

Kingman's water well depth ranges from 300-700 feet depending where you are at in that town. Seligman, Ash Fork, Williams, and portions of Flagstaff must haul water. Areas in Flagstaff like Fort Valley have great wells with depths from about 50-300 feet. Other areas in Flagstaff have a very deep water table or poor geology and they must haul their water. It's hit or miss with Flagstaff. Most tap into city water supplies.

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Unread 06-30-2011, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Ash Fork
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my requests are ridiculous ? why? can you not prove one thing that you wrote ? i think you have lost all credibility with your outragous claims . i don't think you ever researched what you claim .
#1 you might have researched KEW subdivision that is 3 miles North from Ash Fork . we, who live in KEW do not claim to live in Ash Fork . we live in KEW .
#2 i spent 4 hours outside yesterday and did not see one single rat .
#3 IMO you have too much time on your hands . find a hobby to where you can be happy in . have a super good day today and all the rest of the days in your life .
 
Unread 06-30-2011, 07:45 PM
 
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Really? It seems you've gone on to do just that-- or giving with one hand, talking about the natural beauty of the area, and taking with the other, disparaging everything else.
That unfortunately is the quandary of Ash Fork. The land is beautiful, the scenery is gorgeous but the land is not suitable for human domicile. There are a lot of places that are beautiful but are not conducive to humans residing there. What does admitting that equate to one being disparaging? Is it better to hide the facts, ignore the issues, all in the name of being "PC" ?
 
Unread 06-30-2011, 07:54 PM
 
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my requests are ridiculous ? why? can you not prove one thing that you wrote ? i think you have lost all credibility with your outragous claims . i don't think you ever researched what you claim .
I walked a lot of those lots with the local Ash Fork Realtor. The one time I was looking at one lot, the 35-ton flagstone semi-truck came rolling right through as I was standing there. I turned to the Realtor and told him that the property road is private property, he turned to me and said, "Not is Ash Fork, flagstone trucks have a sort of eminent domain to access private roads." One cannot gate their own private road and must give the semi-trucks 100%, 24/7, 365 access or face legal action.

I invested time and money into looking for land in Ash Fork and Seligman. My wife was even offered a job at the Ash Fork school. Apparently they could not find any local teachers and they compensate teachers so that teachers can drive in from Prescott and Flagstaff to teach in Ash Fork. It was a 4-day school week and they offered a substantial pay increase so that teachers can come in from Prescott and Flagstaff.

In the end, you can believe me or not, it doesn't matter as the facts I presented are substantiated by geologists, hydrologists, local Realtors, builders, the USGS and engineers.
 
Unread 06-30-2011, 08:52 PM
 
Location: SoCal desert
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That unfortunately is the quandary of Ash Fork. The land is beautiful, the scenery is gorgeous but the land is not suitable for human domicile. There are a lot of places that are beautiful but are not conducive to humans residing there. What does admitting that equate to one being disparaging? Is it better to hide the facts, ignore the issues, all in the name of being "PC" ?
Not suitable for you.
In your opinion.

There's plenty of us who have another opinion.
 
Unread 06-30-2011, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Ash Fork
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DellNec , you have not proved one single thing you claimed in your previous psot where you badmouthed Ash Fork . all you have done is put other peoples opinions on the line . one thing you have not made clear yet . did you do all your exploring in the city of Ash Fork or KEW , or maybe even Juniperwoods . i would even like that you name the real estate person who led you around . don't BS me on that because i know them .
now your wife most likely is a very nice lady , but we don't need to know of the school situation here . did you even know that we have brand new school ?


P.S. , i was outside again today and did not see one single rat ! did see a Mojave Green .
 
Unread 06-30-2011, 09:14 PM
 
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Not suitable for you.
In your opinion.

There's plenty of us who have another opinion.
That is what forums are about. Discussing such matters.

If having ones one supply of well water is not important to you, then so be it. It is important to 95% of those looking for rural land that they can have a home and be self-sustaining. As a matter of fact, the History Channel just had a 1 hour special on people being self sufficient and how having ones one water well that can be pumped manually is vital to human survival, especially in times of peril.

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Unread 06-30-2011, 09:18 PM
 
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did you do all your exploring in the city of Ash Fork or KEW , or maybe even Juniperwoods .
I was in all the areas. I looked at quite a few lots in Ash Fork including Kaibab Estates, Juniper Ranch and even made my way to Seligman.

I am glad you are content and happy in Ash Fork.

Let me ask you this, do you believe Ash Fork has any negatives? If so, what are they?
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