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Unread 06-25-2012, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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DHS officials in Arizona have been directed not to respond to the scene of a state or local traffic stop or a similar law enforcement encounter upon the requests from state and local police officers for assistance in enforcing immigration laws unless the individual meets DHS enforcement priorities – is a convicted criminal, has been removed from the US previously and reentered unlawfully or is a recent border crosser.

DHS Directed Not to Assist AZ Police to Enforce Immigration Law | Fox News Insider

 
Unread 06-25-2012, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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DHS officials in Arizona have been directed not to respond to the scene of a state or local traffic stop or a similar law enforcement encounter upon the requests from state and local police officers for assistance in enforcing immigration laws unless the individual meets DHS enforcement priorities – is a convicted criminal, has been removed from the US previously and reentered unlawfully or is a recent border crosser.

DHS Directed Not to Assist AZ Police to Enforce Immigration Law | Fox News Insider
Well, that pretty much tears the guts out of whatever was left of SB 1070 then, doesn't it?
 
Unread 06-25-2012, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Well, that pretty much tears the guts out of whatever was left of SB 1070 then, doesn't it?
Yeah. The law requires them to check, but if someone admits to being here illegally all they can say is "Bienvenidos a los estados unidos".

Well, the purpose of the law was to scare the illegals into leaving the state and it may still do that. If AZ was seriously interested in stopping illegal immigration into the state they would enforce the e-verify and employer sanctions law that HAS been found constitutional by the Court.

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Unread 06-25-2012, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Yeah. The law requires them to check, but if someone admits to being here illegally all they can say is "Bienvenidos a los estados unidos".

Well, the purpose of the law was to scare the illegals into leaving the state and it may still do that. If AZ was seriously interested in stopping illegal immigration into the state they would enforce the e-verify and employer sanctions law that HAS been found constitutional by the Court.
I'm pretty sure if you admit to any violation of federal law, the police could still detain you.

I think the issue is now if they ask someone for proof of citizenship or visa and they don't have it, the officer cannot arrest and detain that person without assistance from DHS in verifying immigration status during the course of the traffic stop or whatever.

Now that the AZ police don't have DHS assistance, the officer cannot arrest on suspicion of immigration violation.
 
Unread 06-25-2012, 08:10 PM
 
Location: North of the 101
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NOT the bill, Ocean . . .

Governor Brewer should be given a HUGE RAISE for her efforts in doing what is right. Far too many politicians, both locally and in Washington all the way up to Obama, are nothing but VOTE Moderator cut: language who will do and say just about anything for the God Almighty Vote.

Thank God we still have a few Jan Brewers out there that are willing to represent the honest, law abiding citizens.
Well, she's certainly a poster child for a non-degreed community college education. Brewer got her clock cleaned today.
 
Unread 06-25-2012, 08:25 PM
 
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Well, she's certainly a poster child for a non-degreed community college education. Brewer got her clock cleaned today.
Uh; at least Brewer is TRYING to do something about illegal aliens in Arizona. Maybe the Feds should take the hint. Sheesh!
 
Unread 06-26-2012, 12:48 AM
 
Location: East Central Phoenix
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Overall, I'm not the biggest fan of Jan Brewer, and I have a few reservations about certain parts of SB 1070. However, the people who are amnesty happy need to understand that illegal is illegal. For years, Arizona had the highest number of illegal aliens crossing the border & living in the state, and nobody in the government said or did much about it. The citizens spoke up and demanded action, so that was one of the reasons for SB 1070 in the first place.

Most everybody has no problem with legal immigration. The ones who live here ILLEGALLY and sponge off our gov't services & pop out babies they can't afford are the problems. Of course, one big part of the problem is the employers who hire illegals for minimal wage work. I'm really more in favor of going after these employers who break the law ... because the way I see it, if businesses hired only legal citizens, illegals wouldn't be over here looking for odd jobs. Also, if the Fourteenth Amendment were repealed (or at least reworded), illegals wouldn't be over here spewing out their anchor babies so they would be instant U.S. citizens. We need to do our part over here by cutting off the access (welfare, jobs, etc.) to non citizens, and I think that alone would reduce the illegal population.
 
Unread 06-26-2012, 12:52 AM
 
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She should be given the bill for this not us
Obama should be given the bill for all of his lawsuits against states that are trying to uphold the laws of our land that He is sworn to uphold but refuses to do.

Brewer has done the right thing. Obama has not.
 
Unread 06-26-2012, 12:55 AM
 
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DHS officials in Arizona have been directed not to respond to the scene of a state or local traffic stop or a similar law enforcement encounter upon the requests from state and local police officers for assistance in enforcing immigration laws unless the individual meets DHS enforcement priorities – is a convicted criminal, has been removed from the US previously and reentered unlawfully or is a recent border crosser.

DHS Directed Not to Assist AZ Police to Enforce Immigration Law | Fox News Insider
The states should now sue Obama to force him to uphold the laws of this land.
 
Unread 06-26-2012, 09:49 AM
 
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It's really funny how each side interprets this decision, but, the heart and soul of 1070(and what the left was protesting), was the provision about asking for papers when stopped. THIS WAS UPHELD.......and, it was unanimous(9-0)......Most people were not even aware of the rest of the bill....
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