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Old 10-28-2007, 08:06 PM
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And yes I hate rain, and absolutely love drought conditions. We get far too much here in Ohio so quite frankly we are sick of it. We are originally from Sacramento and are used to warm hot dry summers so nothing new. It's rather nice to be able to plan outside activities weeks in advance and not have to worry about weather getting in the way.

We don't have that luxury here in Ohio. We get about maybe a 5-6 month window of oportunity each year for outside activites not including rainfall every 2-3 days that gets in the way.
I think some of you don't realize how good you have it out west.

Don't care if there is a water restriction, I don't wash the cars much at all,,,the nice ones are garaged and hardly driven so they only require touch up cleaning. We don't care for swimming pools,,,,Flushing the toilet? Well I don't think something that inhuman would ever happen, but to entertain that idea,,,,,I can always find a tree outside There are ways to deal with it.

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Old 10-28-2007, 09:46 PM
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Well, I like sunny warm sunny weather - and make no bones about it. That is after all the reason we're planning on retiring to Arizona. Having said that, I fail to see how any reasonable, thinking person could possibly say they love drought conditions and have any idea what they are really talking about. No matter how it's viewed drought is a terrible, terrible thing. It devastates crops and causes untold suffering. Quite simply, drought is a killer - so to say you love drought conditions is simply foolish, irresponsible and uneducated. One can certainly love the desert and the dry desert climate that goes with it, but that is not the same thing as loving drought.

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Old 10-29-2007, 06:34 AM
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LOL,,,,sounds like I struck a nerve with you. Never met anyone that loves the dry conditions? I find that strange, as I know of many people like myself that suffer from severe allergy conditions from mold and other nasty things that moisture causes,,,and absolutely love the dry air/no rain fall type conditions Arizona provides.
In any event, we are well aware of what drought conditions are, being from California originally.
For you to say we are uneducated and foolish is simply jumping the gun and uncalled for. You have no idea, and are making your own assumptions.
Just because we like it and prefer that type of weather doesn't mean you have to,,,,sheeesh No one is forcing you to stay there

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Old 10-29-2007, 10:25 AM
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Never met anyone that loves the dry conditions?
Yeah, but "dry conditions" is NOT the same as drought. Drought is a very specific term that means a very specific thing. "Dry conditions" is the natural state of much of the Southwest - it's the same thing as "Arid". "Drought" is a natural disaster. Drought is something that takes anyplace and dimishes it's rainfall to the point of it causing problems. A place that is lush and green becomes dry. A place that is dry becomes barren and potentially lifeless.

I think what you like is "Arid" - and that's fine. I have no problem with that - and the SouthWest is the right place for you. Lots of folks like that.

But "drought" is something different - and a bad thing no matter how you look at it.

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Old 10-29-2007, 02:24 PM
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Sounds like you hate it,,,,maybe you should just move
That's a rather simplistic response, but I'll just consider the source. Actually, I don't hate Arizona. Matter of fact, there are more things to like about the state than dislike ... which is why I stay. The only thing I truly "hate" right now is the drought. Perhaps if you did some research on regional climatology, you would understand that the majority of the past 11 years or so has been significantly lacking in moisture. Being this dry for so long isn't normal, even for Arizona, which is typically an arid state.

Oh, and another thing I find rather annoying besides the drought is certain transplants/newcomers who act all high & mighty, and tell long term established residents & natives to "move".

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Yeah, but "dry conditions" is NOT the same as drought. Drought is a very specific term that means a very specific thing. "Dry conditions" is the natural state of much of the Southwest - it's the same thing as "Arid". "Drought" is a natural disaster. Drought is something that takes anyplace and dimishes it's rainfall to the point of it causing problems. A place that is lush and green becomes dry. A place that is dry becomes barren and potentially lifeless.
I doubt if he can comprehend the difference, LordBalfor. We're obviously dealing with an ignoramus. He doesn't think it's humanely possible to have restrictions on toilet flushing? Apparently, he hasn't heard of "yellow, let it mellow ... brown, flush it down". A little disgusting perhaps, but those kind of conservation measures have been used before in drought impacted areas.

We'll see how much he likes drought conditions when California styled wildfires impact much of Arizona next summer. The high country of central Arizona already experienced the Rodeo/Chedeski Fire five years ago, which burned over 400,000 acres. Plus, many other devastating fires have burned land & destroyed homes since then ... much of it occurred as a result of the prolonged drought!

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Valley Native and LordBalfor make valid points. Drought conditions are NOTHING to smile about. We had one here in IL a few years back where we went 6 weeks w/o any rain. To those in AZ, thats normal, but here its not. Crops were lost, rivers were at all time low levels, water bans were forced, it wasnt fun. We actually were classified with extreme drought status. Those folks in areas like GA, NC, SC, etc, are in exceptional drought status. Some places only had a 50 day water supply!!!! Thats nothing to joke about. In fact its quite scary!

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Old 10-29-2007, 07:32 PM
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That's a rather simplistic response, but I'll just consider the source. Actually, I don't hate Arizona. Matter of fact, there are more things to like about the state than dislike ... which is why I stay. The only thing I truly "hate" right now is the drought. Perhaps if you did some research on regional climatology, you would understand that the majority of the past 11 years or so has been significantly lacking in moisture. Being this dry for so long isn't normal, even for Arizona, which is typically an arid state.

Oh, and another thing I find rather annoying besides the drought is certain transplants/newcomers who act all high & mighty, and tell long term established residents & natives to "move".



I doubt if he can comprehend the difference, LordBalfor. We're obviously dealing with an ignoramus. He doesn't think it's humanely possible to have restrictions on toilet flushing? Apparently, he hasn't heard of "yellow, let it mellow ... brown, flush it down". A little disgusting perhaps, but those kind of conservation measures have been used before in drought impacted areas.

We'll see how much he likes drought conditions when California styled wildfires impact much of Arizona next summer. The high country of central Arizona already experienced the Rodeo/Chedeski Fire five years ago, which burned over 400,000 acres. Plus, many other devastating fires have burned land & destroyed homes since then ... much of it occurred as a result of the prolonged drought!
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Old 10-29-2007, 07:33 PM
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Valley Native and LordBalfor make valid points. Drought conditions are NOTHING to smile about. We had one here in IL a few years back where we went 6 weeks w/o any rain. To those in AZ, thats normal, but here its not. Crops were lost, rivers were at all time low levels, water bans were forced, it wasnt fun. We actually were classified with extreme drought status. Those folks in areas like GA, NC, SC, etc, are in exceptional drought status. Some places only had a 50 day water supply!!!! Thats nothing to joke about. In fact its quite scary!
Who's joking. I simply state I like these conditions and some people seem offended,,,,"shrug" Not my problem.

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He doesn't think it's humanely possible to have restrictions on toilet flushing? Apparently, he hasn't heard of "yellow, let it mellow ... brown, flush it down". A little disgusting perhaps, but those kind of conservation measures have been used before in drought impacted areas.
I've taught my kids to do that all the time. You don't need to flush the toilet every time you pee. There's a lot of ways we should be saving water whether we are in a drought or not.

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