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Old 04-28-2013, 01:06 AM
 
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Default Thoughts on Twin Arrows Casino

I feel I am mainly very positive on Arizona as a whole. From Phoenix to Holbrook, I find large and small communities endearing in different ways. However, I cannot say that this set up at Twin Arrows seems very endearing for someone as myself from The Valley.

I did research and they are opening around May 24th. I checked room rates and the low end is $179/night. I am sorry. This casino is halfway between Flagstaff and Winslow. It's NOT in the Ponderosa region of Flag and the scenery nearby resembles much closer to Winslow than Flagstaff. There are SO MANY casinos already in this state near most towns (Prescott, Payson and Globe) along with Phoenix and Tucson. For 800 total gaming sites and paying $179/night, I think I will take the 4 hour drive to Laughlin to have access to the Colorado and pay $50/night at Harrah's instead.

Curious to get others thoughts on this set up. Thanks.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:51 AM
 
Location: Avondale, AZ
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It'll be interesting to see how it does. Yeah, we have a ton of casinos in AZ, but none in that part of Arizona that I know of.

The Navajo Nation hasn't had a casino in Arizona up until now and only have three others. Considering the size of the Navajo Nation, they haven't really capitalized on gaming in the way that other reservations have (I'm looking at you, Pima and Gila River).

I don't think it will be very successful as a casino, but it's being marketed as more of a resort. If they keep heading in that direction, they may have something on their hands. It won't compete with the larger scale casinos in the valley, but I don't think that's their intent.

Regardless, from what I've seen so far, it looks like it's going to be a very nice place. Might be worth at least one trip.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:58 AM
 
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It'll be interesting to see how it does. Yeah, we have a ton of casinos in AZ, but none in that part of Arizona that I know of.

The Navajo Nation hasn't had a casino in Arizona up until now and only have three others. Considering the size of the Navajo Nation, they haven't really capitalized on gaming in the way that other reservations have (I'm looking at you, Pima and Gila River).

I don't think it will be very successful as a casino, but it's being marketed as more of a resort. If they keep heading in that direction, they may have something on their hands. It won't compete with the larger scale casinos in the valley, but I don't think that's their intent.

Regardless, from what I've seen so far, it looks like it's going to be a very nice place. Might be worth at least one trip.
Not even sure if alcohol will be served either Cody. Navajo as you probably know is dry. If you stay in Kayenta, better buy beer in Flag since they don't sell it anywhere on the res.
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Old 04-28-2013, 02:03 AM
 
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It'll be interesting to see how it does. Yeah, we have a ton of casinos in AZ, but none in that part of Arizona that I know of.

The Navajo Nation hasn't had a casino in Arizona up until now and only have three others. Considering the size of the Navajo Nation, they haven't really capitalized on gaming in the way that other reservations have (I'm looking at you, Pima and Gila River).

I don't think it will be very successful as a casino, but it's being marketed as more of a resort. If they keep heading in that direction, they may have something on their hands. It won't compete with the larger scale casinos in the valley, but I don't think that's their intent.

Regardless, from what I've seen so far, it looks like it's going to be a very nice place. Might be worth at least one trip.
I can see it being a resort Cody if there are majestic peaks and other striking features immediately nearby. I was at the Sandia Resort and Casino in ABQ (didn't stay but spent a couple hours there) last weekend and they can justify their prices by having a beautiful mountain backdrop a couple miles east of their location near the Sandia Tram. Twin Arrows on Exit 219 does not have any immediate mountains or anything striking to justify their $179 to $359/night costs. The SF Peaks and Ponderosas are some 20 miles west and again, this is on flat high desert ground just slightly greener than Winslow. If this was built right in Flag, I'd be more inclined to stay.

Put it to you this way. There is a casino on I 40 near Grants,NM with views of 11000 foot Mt Taylor only charging $79/night.

Regardless, I do wish them well whether I choose to go or not.

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Old 04-28-2013, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Scottsdale, AZ
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those prices are their regular, published "rack" rates....few people who know how to play around on the internet or know how to ask for special promotions will pay those rates....

I think the Navajos repeatedly voted down getting into the gambling business after all the others jumped in....good for them for holding to traditional beliefs for a while (if that's why......)

this new hotel/casino will appeal to I-40 travelers, of course, and probably some Flagstaff visitors/conventioneers looking for a scene like this, since no other casino is in the area....
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Old 04-28-2013, 08:33 AM
 
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The nearest casino to Flagstaff is Cliff Castle which is on I-17 just north of Camp Verde. It does decent business but not great business.

I see the main attraction of Twin Arrows being to I-40 travelers. If people are looking for a resort then they are more likely to head for nearby Sedona which has several very well established and renowned resorts.
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:49 AM
 
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We don't gamble but we often stop at the casino in Payson to have dinner. Will be interested in reviews of the Twin Arrow restaurant as we will probably check it out our next trip to Flag.
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:36 PM
 
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We don't gamble but we often stop at the casino in Payson to have dinner. Will be interested in reviews of the Twin Arrow restaurant as we will probably check it out our next trip to Flag.
As I said, they seem to be trying to model the Sandia Resort and Casino in ABQ. Modest sized gaming but expensive dining,hotel and other amenities. The problem is they don't have beautiful mountains and greenery 2 miles away like Sandia has. Even if they have a pool and golf course, you are looking at flatlands of sagebrush and a few junipers. Saying this is like Flagstaff is absolute false advertising IMO.

Mazatzal in Payson makes you "MAD AS HELL." That's been my personal experience on slots as well as several coworkers I know. They should be playing Foreigner's "Cold as Ice" 24/7 near the slots.LOL. I do enjoy a good burger and chili at Buffalo Bar and Grill just north of the casino at the bottom of the hill entering Payson from the south.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:50 PM
 
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Pretty high prices for being out in the middle of nowhere. If they don't have regular, free shuttles from Flagstaff (18 miles away), I wouldn't bet on them turning a profit for long.

And yes, they have announced that they will be serving alcohol, for consumption ONLY on casino grounds.
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Old 05-11-2013, 08:56 AM
 
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So...yesterday I had a call from someone soliciting funds to feed "over 900 people" in the Navajo Nation. My thoughts/question is: is this a legitimate request? With a price tag of over $150M for their new Twin Arrows Casino, why are their people going hungry? Think about it.
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