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Old 05-21-2013, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Queen Creek, AZ
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I was wondering, is there any particular reason why there are only three public four year universities in Arizona - ASU, UA, and NAU?

For comparison, New Mexico has several public four-year universities but has a much lower population than Arizona. Why would Arizona only have three?
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:15 PM
 
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I was wondering, is there any particular reason why there are only three public four year universities in Arizona - ASU, UA, and NAU?

For comparison, New Mexico has several public four-year universities but has a much lower population than Arizona. Why would Arizona only have three?
Grand Canyon University is #4 and believe is on its way to Division 1 sports in addition to NAU, ASU and U of A.
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Queen Creek, AZ
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Grand Canyon University is #4 and believe is on its way to Division 1 sports in addition to NAU, ASU and U of A.
GCU is a private for-profit university. This thread is about public universities.
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
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I think a lot of it has to do with how centralized our population tends to be as a whole - New Mexico, in comparison, has a population that is spread much more evenly throughout the state. As such they have five public universities, most of which are quite small. They have UNM (north), NMSU (south), Eastern NM and Western NM, along with NM Tech in Socorro. They've covered themselves, geographically. And that's what they need.

If you look at Arizona, we have our major population centers covered. I don't think we could support another public university - there's no niche or population base for one. The only possible addition would be a tech school - but ASU has already cornered that market with their poly campus.

As far as lesser population centers, our universities have risen to meet the needs of those communities. NAU has been the most pro-active in this, and has satellite campuses all over the state. Then there are the joint initiatives, like the biomedical campus in downtown Phoenix which all three universities are participating in. They identified a niche, and they're working together to meet our needs.

I don't think we need another public university. Our needs are met. We need to improve upon what we have.
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:21 PM
 
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I was wondering, is there any particular reason why there are only three public four year universities in Arizona - ASU, UA, and NAU?

For comparison, New Mexico has several public four-year universities but has a much lower population than Arizona. Why would Arizona only have three?
We have plenty of higher education schools. We don't need more public puke in Arizona,

Grand Canyon University
Thunderbird School of global management
Phoenix School of Law
and on and on and on.

I would love it if ASU polytech would separate itself from the party school ASU. Polytech could be turned into a private Phoenix School of Technology or Arizona Tech. like the other schools listed. Notice how I didn't list University of Phoenix? troll face -->
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Queen Creek, AZ
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I think a lot of it has to do with how centralized our population tends to be as a whole - New Mexico, in comparison, has a population that is spread much more evenly throughout the state. As such they have five public universities, most of which are quite small. They have UNM (north), NMSU (south), Eastern NM and Western NM, along with NM Tech in Socorro. They've covered themselves, geographically. And that's what they need.
Don't forget about New Mexico Highlands University in Las Vegas, which is larger than WNMU and NMT in terms of number of students.

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I would love it if ASU polytech would separate itself from the party school ASU. Polytech could be turned into a private Phoenix School of Technology or Arizona Tech. like the other schools listed. Notice how I didn't list University of Phoenix? troll face -->
I'm an ASU Polytechnic student myself, and I would HATE to see the Polytechinc campus split from ASU, since it would kill the value of my future degree in Software Engineering. Without an ASU branding, my degree would be worthless.
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:37 PM
 
Location: Renton, WA
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Cool There are at least six state universities in New Mexico

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I think a lot of it has to do with how centralized our population tends to be as a whole - New Mexico, in comparison, has a population that is spread much more evenly throughout the state. As such they have five public universities, most of which are quite small. They have UNM (north), NMSU (south), Eastern NM and Western NM, along with NM Tech in Socorro. They've covered themselves, geographically. And that's what they need.
In addition to the five universities mentioned above, there is also New Mexico Highlands University in Las Vegas.
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:46 PM
 
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3 public universities is plenty. Damn near all of Arizona's population lives in either the Phoenix metro area or Tucson area which are both served by great universities. Flagstaff being the hub of Northern Arizona and being centrally located in Coconino County is a perfect place for NAU and attracts a lot of students who live in that part of the state. We don't need another public university in Yuma or Kingman because the population doesn't call for it (Well if I lived in Yuma and college age I would go to college in San Diego anyway). You get the point though....
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Old 05-22-2013, 12:50 AM
 
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We have plenty of higher education schools. We don't need more public puke in Arizona,

Grand Canyon University
Thunderbird School of global management
Phoenix School of Law
and on and on and on.

I would love it if ASU polytech would separate itself from the party school ASU. Polytech could be turned into a private Phoenix School of Technology or Arizona Tech. like the other schools listed. Notice how I didn't list University of Phoenix? troll face -->
Public puke? It's too bad nobody outside of Arizona has heard of these other "universities" you listed. Thunderbird School of Global Management? Phoenix School of Law? Must be in the same league as the South Harmon Institute of Technology. Arizona's lack of established institutions for higher education (public or private) speaks volumes about how little the state values education. Alaska has the same number of four year public institutions (3) as Arizona and it has about 1/9th of the population.
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:04 AM
 
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ASU is the largest public university in the country. Just sayin.
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